TRUMP 2020!

[Mack]

People are testing positive around me and in my community so it's not like it's not around I just believe it's not nearly as deadly as they say it is

[Most Lee Harmless]

If you have 20 intensive care beds and 19 patients then no, it is not that deadly.
If you have 20 intensive care beds and 119 patients then yes, it is rather deadly.

By keeping infection rates down we keep infected cases down and within our means to treat them with a high degree of success.

Once our medical facilities are overwhelmed then we is ferked. Not just for covid cases but for all the other life-threatening illnesses. No empty ICU beds is kinda problematic for cardiac cases too. A lack of ventilators is problematic for those with breathing disorders no matter the cause. A shortage of nursing staff due to covid cases being dealt with impacts on all other care needs, some of which are also life-threatening.

There is a blog from a NY paramedic chief. Apart from the strain placed on the whole service dealing with covid cases, they still had to deal with all their usual ranges of cases. It is quite clear that the policy they had to adopt, of long shifts and working rest days, is not sustainable over weeks, never mind months or a year.

Medical services may have a degree of slack built in, you can juggle beds, cancel surgeries, overwork staff. But once you tip over that point of absolute capacity, then the death rate increase will not be linear, it will be exponential.

So, if that day ever comes, as you wait twelve hours for an ambulance, as you sit in the waiting room, or lie on a trolley in a corridor, as a stressed out nurse knows there is no ventilator to put you on, no bed to put you in and no doctor free to aid you. Well maybe wearing a mask was no big deal after all.

[Mack]

well here they are laying nurses off so it must not be to overwhelming, maybe that's partially due to the way the healthcare provider is set up for themselves which means it's not covid-19 it's the healthcare providers failure to provide good facilities like New York for example

[The Lamb]

I popped a high fever at the end of last week, all the flu symptoms. Called my doctor, told her the symptoms and told her i felt like i had the flu. She said she wanted to test me for covid and i asked her if she should test me for the flu, she said "no, there is no flu right now", just the covid test was needed so i got tested.

I feel better, my covid test was negative, and when her nurse called me to check up, I told her i still think its the flu, even though the Doc said there is no flu, she said "What?!" I said, "yeaaaahhh, who would have thought covid cured the flu, but we will keep that between us". She laughed nervously and we ended the phone call.

[Stan Rogers]

Influenza, common cold, covid 19 all spread in a similar fashion. If you contract any of these ailments, it would be prudent to examine where and how you contracted it to avoid a repeat where you may not dodge the bullet next time.

[Dmanwuzhere]

i dont care what you call it any government dictating your behavior inside your home is retarded
i think i have a better handle on my health and any underlying condition than the government does
and i damn sure wont wear a mask in my own home friggin tards everywhere



some independent reading never hurts

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

[Lachlan]

i dont care what you call it any government dictating your behavior inside your home is retarded
i think i have a better handle on my health and any underlying condition than the government does
and i damn sure wont wear a mask in my own home friggin tards everywhere



some independent reading never hurts

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

you have to wear masks inside your house?

[Lachlan]

lmao get real bud... i guess you think i dont understand what youre saying, i do understand, i just disagree

my town dont follow those rules and we have no pandemic here

why then? Most of what you say is nonsense except the numbers which are reasonably low at the moment. I don't get why you are so sceptical and come up with ridiculous stuff like trump will win the election even though that's finished and Biden has won

[Dmanwuzhere]

i dont care what you call it any government dictating your behavior inside your home is retarded
i think i have a better handle on my health and any underlying condition than the government does
and i damn sure wont wear a mask in my own home friggin tards everywhere



some independent reading never hurts

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

you have to wear masks inside your house?

some folks are being told too
and 6 folks maximum for thanksgiving
lol i dont listen to unjustified mandates

[Lachlan]

i dont care what you call it any government dictating your behavior inside your home is retarded
i think i have a better handle on my health and any underlying condition than the government does
and i damn sure wont wear a mask in my own home friggin tards everywhere



some independent reading never hurts

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

you have to wear masks inside your house?

some folks are being told too
and 6 folks maximum for thanksgiving
lol i dont listen to unjustified mandates

oh ok, in Australia I think it is more people allowed in the house. Is this mask wearing when you have guests over or just by yourself with your household?