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[Leo the Conqueror]

Oh no not in a restaurant. I meant even when they are alone it's only Ok if it passes congress

[Meliva]

Oh no not in a restaurant. I meant even when they are alone it's only Ok if it passes congress

Depends. Sometimes you only have a limited opportunity to get someone all alone. If you take that time to talk to congress to pass it, that gives time for them to end up in a public place, or for them to be alerted by potential spies.

Again, I'd rather ignore congress and take a good opportunity to kill a target while alone, then get congress to agree to blow him up while he's sitting in a McDonalds eating a burger.

[Stan Rogers]

Oh no not in a restaurant. I meant even when they are alone it's only Ok if it passes congress

But what if the restaurant was filled with zombie's and the terrorist was hanging out with them ? Would it be okay then to drone strike it ?

[Lachlan]

You didn't answer me earlier, So I'm gonna ask you again Kim.

The hell does it matter if there was or was not a target there or not?
Lemme ask you something- do you really think just because a terrorist target is in a restaurant, that makes it justified to send a drone strike at said restaurant? Where innocent people, from the folks who work there, as well as other customers are? Would be better to try to hit the guy when he drives off in a car alone, or at another spot where folks are not gonna get in the crossfire. Hell, again, one of our OWN citizens DIED because of it!

sorry I got distracted by Dman, I think it is not okay for him to have done that and I'm not sure why he did that but maybe there was some sort of reason he did like maybe it was a high value target and it was his only opportunity to kill him. I don't know if that terrorist or terrorists were high value so I would say ultimately bad. However if it was a high value target like Osama Bin Ladens 2nd in command I would hit him even if it meant a few dead people because that person could kill much more than a few people if not killed. I don't think it is so black and white though like Obama not kill him in restaurant good, Obama kill him in restaurant bad. There must have been some sort of critical factor that swayed him to do a drone strike on a restaurant with innocent people inside.

[Meliva]

Or maybe he didn't care if innocent folks died so long as he took out someone who was a target. You see- you are literally trying to justify and defend him bombing innocent people by saying "there must have been some sort of critical factor". Wanna tell that to the family of the folks who died? "sorry Ma'am we had to blow up your son since a terrorist was eating a burger next to him, no, we couldn't wait for him to get back in his car to try to avoid blowing up your son and the other folks in the restuarant, nor could we simply stalk him back to his home or apartment and try to kill him when alone. A lot easier to just blow up half a dozen folks along with our target rather then isolate him".

This also wasn't a one time thing-a lotta innocent people were caught in drone strikes. Obama and Biden just didn't give a damn that innocent folks along with literal CHILDREN were being blown up so long as they got that one guy they wanted dead. It's disgusting and hypocritical to try to justify that.

[Mack]

In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 In 2012, a total of 2,543,279 deaths

what I'm noticing is there is no steady number it jumps up and down dramatically Through The Years every year this does not seem abnormal to me this year is a little on the high side but not dramatically High

still digging thats a lot of numbers and not enough free time

well it only at 2.1 mil so far this year so.... and that wasnt super easy to find


now its at 2.3 and way easier to find now

lol how does he have no clue you just said before 21 million

ha didnt notice that.... but what i did notice you guys never have anything to say about the facts i throw out there just my grammar mistakes


In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 In 2012, a total of 2,543,279 deaths

what I'm noticing is there is no steady number it jumps up and down dramatically Through The Years every year this does not seem abnormal to me this year is a little on the high side but not dramatically High

still digging thats a lot of numbers and not enough free time


well it only at 2.1 mil so far this year so.... and that wasnt super easy to find



now its at 2.3 and way easier to find now

[Lachlan]

now its at 2.3 and way easier to find now

lol how does he have no clue you just said before 21 million

ha didnt notice that.... but what i did notice you guys never have anything to say about the facts i throw out there just my grammar mistakes


In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 In 2012, a total of 2,543,279 deaths

what I'm noticing is there is no steady number it jumps up and down dramatically Through The Years every year this does not seem abnormal to me this year is a little on the high side but not dramatically High

still digging thats a lot of numbers and not enough free time


well it only at 2.1 mil so far this year so.... and that wasnt super easy to find



now its at 2.3 and way easier to find now

that would be a numerical mistake not a grammer mistake. What is this even about because I didn't keep track about your conversation for 2-3 days so I'm not quite sure what these numbers are

[Lachlan]

Or maybe he didn't care if innocent folks died so long as he took out someone who was a target. You see- you are literally trying to justify and defend him bombing innocent people by saying "there must have been some sort of critical factor". Wanna tell that to the family of the folks who died? "sorry Ma'am we had to blow up your son since a terrorist was eating a burger next to him, no, we couldn't wait for him to get back in his car to try to avoid blowing up your son and the other folks in the restuarant, nor could we simply stalk him back to his home or apartment and try to kill him when alone. A lot easier to just blow up half a dozen folks along with our target rather then isolate him".

This also wasn't a one time thing-a lotta innocent people were caught in drone strikes. Obama and Biden just didn't give a damn that innocent folks along with literal CHILDREN were being blown up so long as they got that one guy they wanted dead. It's disgusting and hypocritical to try to justify that.

Why the **** are you saying I'm justifying it? I literally said before that's not morally right? I don't even have any knowledge about this whatsoever and you and Dman are saying I'm justifying this. Dman I understand since I might not have made it clear in my responses to him until yesterday. You saying that to me makes no sense whatsoever since I literally said just before I think it's wrong.

This is what I said: I think it is not okay for him to have done that
I then also said there must have been a reason since I thought this was just one isolated incident or just a few and not a common thing. Is this disgusting and hypocritical to say? Your quick to condemn me over something I have not said and I feel very hurt that you think I as a person would try to justify killing children since legally I essentially am a child.

[Most Lee Harmless]

I asked him what those numbers were also. Actual deaths? Expected deaths? I think we are just supposed to know what mack means without him telling us.

[Meliva]

If someone told you,
"you know, I don't think Hitler should have killed all those jews, BUT maybe he had a reason for it" or "You know, it's not so black and white what Hitler did to the jews" Wouldn't YOU think that based on their words they seem to be defending Hitler's actions?

Because when you come and say you don't approve of him blowing up a restaurant and killing innocent folks, then in the same bloody paragraph say "he must have had a reason," or "it's not black and white" it makes it sound like you're trying to defend his actions, while trying to claim to be moral.

It's like talking to someone who says "Now, I'm not racist but asians are bad drivers." or I'm not sexist, but women shouldn't vote". Yeah, sorry but just because you say you aren't X, or Y when you go and say "but maybe Z" you don't help your case.

Hell, you even said that YOU Would hit the restaurant yourself if it was a high target like Osama's 2nd in command. You are LITERALLY saying it's justified if the target is dangerous enough!

Edit- your quote Kim right below.

However if it was a high value target like Osama Bin Ladens 2nd in command I would hit him even if it meant a few dead people because that person could kill much more than a few people if not killed.

Your words right there. Literally saying you'd blow up innocent people if the target was high enough