TRUMP 2020!

[Mack]

Good friggin luck with that bud

I guess you guys also still Overlook the fact that we're only at a little over 21 million deaths this year so far

Incorrect.

what did you find then?

[Leo]

COVID deaths rack up to about 1.3M total worldwide. I just figured you probably meant deaths of anyone caused by anything.

[Mack]

whats the total death count total of all total is what i was asking.. the nber is different now, now they say 2.3 mil

[Leo]

2.3 mil, that's more like it.

[Mack]

lol you have no clue i think

In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 In 2012, a total of 2,543,279 deaths

what I'm noticing is there is no steady number it jumps up and down dramatically Through The Years every year this does not seem abnormal to me this year is a little on the high side but not dramatically High

still digging thats a lot of numbers and not enough free time

well it only at 2.1 mil so far this year so.... and that wasnt super easy to find

now its at 2.3 and way easier to find now

[Lachlan]

lol you have no clue i think

In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 In 2012, a total of 2,543,279 deaths

what I'm noticing is there is no steady number it jumps up and down dramatically Through The Years every year this does not seem abnormal to me this year is a little on the high side but not dramatically High

still digging thats a lot of numbers and not enough free time

well it only at 2.1 mil so far this year so.... and that wasnt super easy to find

now its at 2.3 and way easier to find now

lol how does he have no clue you just said before 21 million

[Lachlan]

you prove my point
you dont like trump so you create data to support your feelings
where is your data that supports politicians who have had the rona suddenly change any current views they once had concerning the rona
if you have one example it still would not represent the sum of those who fit that bill

if you dont like what trump does he is a bumbling idiot again because you dont like him
but take obama someone you like and with no knowledge as to the why of the strike suddenly
obama did it so he must have had a reason and that makes the killing of innocents ok
big difference in opinion dont ya think and its solely based on feelings

dont be so wishy washy with your standards i can criticize both trump and obama as well as refer to anything good they did for the usa that i support
however with obama who i voted for the first time he did little after the 1st year in my opinion
being my choice of candidates did not excuse him from responsibility and i reformed my opinion based on his actions

laziness and feelings are what you are offering and im not buying
i wont comment what others love or hate about a politician as i havent seen any listing of everyone followed with their thoughts and seen any evidence offered from them
i know my reasoning and can tell you why and wont offer the view of others
just my view and easily obtained data to support my argument

wtf? I didn't say that it was okay for him to kill innocent people. That's bullshit Dman I never said anything. I said he must have had a reason to initiate that strike. Also I haven't 'created' data which is again bullshit since I gave one example not even related to him it was related to Coronavirus. I also never said they would change their view lol. I said if they get it they realize it is real and not fake and made up and will therefore take it more seriously and enact sensible steps to stop less people getting Coronavirus and not solely. I mean most of what you said you've basically made up and said I have said those stuff when in fact I didn't, the only thing you just wrote remotely true is that I am a bit biased against Obama but I kept an open view and asked you and everyone else why does the media like Obama and stuff and hate Trump. And I also got that the second time he was elected he had much less votes now which I did not know beforehand

he must have had a reason is dismissive of the deaths of innocents and confirms you are defending the action
not just creating data but data that applies to everyone who catches the rona except trump
you realize if someone goes from believing its fake to believing its real and deadly thats changing their view right
i dont think anyone thinks the corona is fake
the argument of deadly however depends on how many pre existing health issues you have that make it deadly
the availability of the tests have slowed the deaths down not because its gotten less deadly
but because doctors and hospitals can lie far less now
the mandate to attribute every death to covid despite something else doing the killing has slowed to a trickle
and now we see its not as deadly as reported in the beginning
i mean i use the same two examples over and over but there are thousands of deaths attributed to the rona
that literally had no involvement in the death

your literally mixing up responses to whatever I said to different people and not to you. I was not dismissive, I am saying yes it is wrong but no president I don't think would just kill innocent people for the sake of killing people because that's not very smart. I provided an example of politicians possibly changing their views and your response is you do realize that's changing their view right. Well of course I do Dman that's why I provided that example, granted it's not a good example but whatever. I also get that may or may not be most politicians but Mack is generalizing what politicians are like and big corporations and I wanted to point that out. Dman I think there are people out there who think it's fake and a conspiracy made up by the government and it's those same dumbasses who thing 5g gives you cancer. Also no need to tell me that stuff about how deadly it is since I already know that.

[Meliva]

You didn't answer me earlier, So I'm gonna ask you again Kim.

The hell does it matter if there was or was not a target there or not?
Lemme ask you something- do you really think just because a terrorist target is in a restaurant, that makes it justified to send a drone strike at said restaurant? Where innocent people, from the folks who work there, as well as other customers are? Would be better to try to hit the guy when he drives off in a car alone, or at another spot where folks are not gonna get in the crossfire. Hell, again, one of our OWN citizens DIED because of it!

[Leo]

It's only ok if it's cleared with congress *cough cough*

[Meliva]

It's not OK period. Blowing up a public place like a restaurant, to kill a terrorist while ignoring the innocent bystanders is just wrong. I'd much rather a president IGNORE congress and blow up a target in a way where only the target dies, then talk with congress and agree to blow up a dozen other folks along with the target.