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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby The Lamb » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:47 pm

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El Draque wrote:I think your missing what im saying here, there is ABSOLUTLY no positive correlation in the data between the amount infected and the death rate.


Thank you for reminding me why I should not read, and definitely not post in, this thread.


Positive correlation is the key. That means as the cases increases per day, the death rate does not increase at the same rate. Why isnt that a good thing? Its just science and numbers.

look at the numbers, you dont even need to graph it to see it. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days

Im not making an opinion, just saying what the data shows.

Oh and i did the math for year over year of total deaths and found 8.5% increase in mortality for the US. Is the data your using counting total deaths year over year or specific groups of deaths?

Oh and good point will. I started looking and gathering the data yesterday from CDC just to see for myslef what the big picture was. And i have to say it made me feel better, it means we are getting a hold on this thing.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Haron » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:19 pm

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Try calculating the correlation between the blue and the orange graph.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:20 pm

lets just forget all of the misleading falsifying reports and cases and reports of cases and just go with the data they have provided, that sounds smart. ah who cares about the flu bronchitis and all of these other amazingly common coronavirus's like the common cold the flu in many many many many many others it all covid
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Haron » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:16 pm

If X and Y are independent, then X and Y will also be uncorrelated.

However, the opposite is not true.

If X and Y are uncorrelated, they are not necessarily independent (although they may be).
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:22 pm

There are 300,000 unexplained excess deaths if it is NOT covid. Care to enlighten us as to the true cause then?

Second question : If covid aint happening then why is Trump blaming China for it? Is he wrong too?
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Stan Rogers » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:55 pm

Is there a graph that shows how many of those 300k dead voted ?
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:12 pm

Stan Rogers wrote:Is there a graph that shows how many of those 300k dead voted ?


It was only 100k but they voted often...
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:15 pm

never said it aint happening i keep sayjng it aint as bad as they want you to think it is
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby The Lamb » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:24 pm

"Follow the science and data" im told.

Look all i was trying to do was share what the data from the CDC shows since im the kind of guy who likes to crunch data and then share the joy of knowing that while the cases are increasing exponentially, the death rate per day has been flat and and actually dropped! You would think thats a wonderful thing and people would be happy to hear that.

Instead im still left with resistance to the ACTUALL DATA FROM THE CDC! Like im making it up. Crazy right?

I say an opinion and im told to follow the science, I report the science from the CDC and still everyone else knows better, im guessing it comes down to not wanting to see what's is right there for some.


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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Haron » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:35 pm

You still don't get it, do you?

Deaths come AFTER infections. Days after. Weeks after. Exactly how long after, varies. That means death rates are "smoothed", and any increase or decrease in deaths will come after an increase or a decrease in inflations.

So if infection rates are rising now, it means that death rates will take longer before dropping to a normal level, or they may even increase further in a week or three, at least if infection rates continue to rise.

My grahs show infection rates varying as a sinus curve, for simplicity. That's the blue line. The other line is death rates, assuming that death occurs 0-29 days after infection, with all delays being equally probable.
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