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[Most Lee Harmless]

Itza conspiracky!
Bubbalubbanumbnutz.com has the truth!

For the money, huh? Which kinda ignores those countries with a universal health care system where such considerations dont apply. So why arent their Covid numbers zero?

Itza conspiracky! They are socialist commies lying to protect their master, Lord Voldemort!

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[Mack]

then why would they have exagerated the numbers then, there are hospitals admitting they had so i dont think its a conspiracy

[William one eye]

I will not argue that the flu is worse than covid.
I think covids much more of a problem than the flu.
However chance of dying of covid are pretty low.
Like comparable to choking on food or dying in a fire.
Way lower than getting killed in a traffic accident, cancer or heart disease.



About the numbers

If you get tested 3 times and they are all negative. They all count as individual tests. Some states have set policy that positive cases are treated the same.

So if you test positive. Every test you get that also tests positive is reported as a new case. Even if they test you daily or run more than 1 type of test on you in a day .

The explanation being it blances the negative tests statistics for people like health care workers who get tested constantly.

Maybe there are financial motives maybe political. I have seen no actual proof of either.

However the counting policy is definitely occuring.
Its fact and it should not even be hard to look up a states policy on how they count tests.


Deaths, well i assume you can only die once.
However is your in palative care and you die of Covid.
Its reported as the cause of death even though the patient might have only had weeks to live anyway. This is bad reporting in my opinion.


If you are terminally ill and catch covid and die.
Covid is the cause if death.
So in this case covid may have cut months off someones life.
Im in the fence on this. Covid killed them, but so would the terminal illness. Statistically is it better to know they had covid,
Better to know they were dying of heart disease liver failure, csncer, ect. Maybe it should be reported as both.

If you die in a skydiving accident, but have covid.
What killed you.
If you die in a traffic accident, but havd covid
What killed yoy.
Honestly do not know how these are being reported.


If you overdose on drugs and die but have covid.
Its probably going to be blamed on covid,

However if you are overdosing on drugs and have covid,
But are killed by cops. Its definitely going to be blamed on the cops instead of covid or the drugs


I will bet there will be votes cast by people who die of covid before election day.

[Haron]

People die of Corona. And it is highly contagious. Yes, it is difficult to count the exact numbers, although they do a pretty decent job at that. However, there are some ways even die hard conspiracy theorists would have a hard time arguing against: Excess mortality.

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

A lot more people died in total several countries from April through May this year compared to previous years. The only major factor to explain this is the Coronavirus. Some nations were hit harder than others from this, due to several factors, like how the situation was handled. Nations who acted early and set in place restrictions, did not get the same increase. That only means that these measures had an effect, not that the virus was less lethal than expected in these nations, of course.

There is no conspiracy to inflate the numbers. The disease IS dangerous. No one is trying to trick you except yourself. Take precautions and follow the advice by health officials.

[Leo the Conqueror]

Ok Will you used the example of choking on food, right?

So say that it was normal times and then all the sudden people started choking on food twice as much. However there was a way to stop people from choking so often and stop it from becoming triple, and that is by keeping your distance from strangers and by wearing a piece of fabric over your face when in a grocery store.

Would you do it?

[Mack]

do you honestly think 6 ft. and maskes did any good

[Leo the Conqueror]

Yes!

Listen to the experts!

Again masks aren't mainly to protect yourself, but to protect others. Though there is new research showing that if you are wearing a mask when you are exposed to coronavirus can make your symtoms not be as bad.

But of course Dr. Mack knows best about a subject that he has never done any real research on other than standing 2 feet away from a stranger and then concluding that social distancing is dumb when he didn't develop any symptoms.

[Most Lee Harmless]

Different countries have different ways to record both deaths and the reason. It has always been the case that, here where I live, they record what killed you, not any underlying condition. So, for example, a lot of early AIDS deaths were recorded as caused by pnuemonia or cancer. Likewise a fair number of deaths amongst the elderly get recorded as pnuemonia when they have long suffered oyher debilitating illnesses which have weakened their immune systems and left them vulnerable to other infections.
Maybe a way to look at it is that you coukd be riddled with terminal cancers, have a heart ready to sieze up, lungs filled with tumours and kidneys failing. But if you fall off your chair and break your neck, that is what killed you.
A doctor once said we all die for the same reason : we stop breathing. So 'respiratory failure' applies to every death.

Harons approach, to look at excess mortality rate is the best guide, imo. Covid deaths are not replacing other causes of deaths, they are adding to them.

As for the chances of dying from it, same reason you look before crossing the road, you can reduce your chances of an earlier death by looking and choosing not to step out in front of a speeding truck.

[Leo the Conqueror]

Wearing a mask is like turning a firearm's safety on when not in use. It helps protect others and yourselves. Remember, the death rate for people above 78 is the same as a gunshot wound.

Social distancing is like driving carefully. It's for the common good. Refusing to wear a mask and refusing to social distance is like careening wildly into the parking lot of every gas station you pass by, and doing so without signaling.

[Mack]

Just a thought I wonder if the who organization planned on giving Nations a whole bunch of money to help with the covid-19 pandemic I wonder who supplied at least used to the who organization with most of their money