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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Meliva » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:28 am

That's a trait that I really dislike personally. Never being willing to admit when one is wrong, or when someone you dislike did something right. It's a very childish thing, yet so many folks are guilty of it. Especially when it comes to Trump. I mean I don't like him as a person, yet I see nothing wrong with saying he did X or Y right. Just like I have no problem saying someone I do like did something wrong.

So many people are so hell-bent on hating trump, the man could probably cure cancer, and most of his hater's would just say "well why didn't he cure Covid?" and vice versa.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby William one eye » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:47 am

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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:10 pm

El Draque wrote:
Interesting, He started doing exactly what i said he would (yeah great peace, but there must be something bad), but then he did the edit, but still cant commit to saying Trump did something good even if its was for Israel. Blue arent you half Jewish? Peace agreement seems pretty good? I guess?

Come on... just once.... Say Trump did a good job.... COME ON... ONE TIME!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH lol


Wait a minute. I couldn't find any very good sources on it. If Trump did what I think he did, then ok, good. I need to do more research before I make a final statement. I'm Jewish, although I'm not on the side of Israel. I'm not a Zionist. I believe that it's not the Israeli people's fault that they were put where they were by the LoN, and Palestine was already occupying the land. Apparently the land goes back thousands of years for both Jewish and Muslim religions. So obviously something needs to be worked out before the entire Middle East is thrown into chaos. Thing is, last time I checked Israel and Palestine were still at war, I don't think Trump's little liability waiver really worked. I could be wrong.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Lachlan » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:12 pm

Lord Mustache wrote:
El Draque wrote:
Interesting, He started doing exactly what i said he would (yeah great peace, but there must be something bad), but then he did the edit, but still cant commit to saying Trump did something good even if its was for Israel. Blue arent you half Jewish? Peace agreement seems pretty good? I guess?

Come on... just once.... Say Trump did a good job.... COME ON... ONE TIME!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH lol


Wait a minute. I couldn't find any very good sources on it. If Trump did what I think he did, then ok, good. I need to do more research before I make a final statement. I'm Jewish, although I'm not on the side of Israel. I'm not a Zionist. I believe that it's not the Israeli people's fault that they were put where they were by the LoN, and Palestine was already occupying the land. Apparently the land goes back thousands of years for both Jewish and Muslim religions. So obviously something needs to be worked out before the entire Middle East is thrown into chaos. Thing is, last time I checked Israel and Palestine were still at war, I don't think Trump's little liability waiver really worked. I could be wrong.

it would probably bring a limited peace like an armistice but it's good because both sides would then have time to negotiate and actual lasting permanent peace
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:14 pm

Yes, that makes sense.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby William one eye » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:33 pm

From wikipedia. I have not verified this information.


Abraham Accords Peace Agreement: Treaty of Peace, Diplomatic Relations and Full Normalization Between the United Arab Emirates and the State of Israel



"Israel and the United Arab Emirates will fully normalize their diplomatic relations. They will exchange embassies and ambassadors and begin cooperation across the board and on a broad range of areas including tourism, education, healthcare, trade and security."

"Concurrently, Israel agreed to suspend plans for annexing parts of the West Bank"


Bahrain is also included in the peace agreement but was left out of the wikipedia post. They will also begin across the board cooperation.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:48 pm

Hmm, this all sounds new to me. It's a tough problem because both sides think that the land belongs to them.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby William one eye » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:23 pm

Lord Mustache wrote:Hmm, this all sounds new to me. It's a tough problem because both sides think that the land belongs to them.


The conflict over the region really only sprung up about 2,750 years ago. It has been going on pretty much since then in one from or another, but i guess it could be easy to miss.


The problem is that the land does belong to both pf them.
Israel and Judah were parts of Palestine. At that time the various groups that lived there got along until the Assyrians
Invaded and forced many people into exile.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo » Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:42 am

Bingo.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Redbard » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:32 pm

Abraham Accords Peace Agreement will not make a difference. it not worth the paper its written on it. Also saying "The conflict over the region really only sprung up about 2,750 years ago" doesn't reflect the true problem currently or the facts on the ground.
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