Biden 2020

[The Lamb]

North Korea, China, Venezuela, Cuba, Vietnam.... etc... all the best places in the world to live. Thats why i never understood that why these teachers who push the ideology still live in America instead of running to these other Social Utopias.

I know i know, its because none of the greatest minds on history ever did it right, but the gender studies professor in at WhoGivesAShart University has figured it all out

[Lachlan]

aren't they all kinda dictatorships though? Isn't china capitalist?

[Meliva]

Isn't there not really any socialist or communist countries anymore?

Venezuala, China, Cuba are 3 off the top of my head. You can find a list of some more if you googled. They still exist sadly.

Yeah Draque, I've come to learn that like with many faulty positions, they tend to gravitate towards a few key points, and once you learn to refute those, they really have nothing left to say. Worthwhile anyway.

It's almost always the same with folks who promote socialism. It's either "real socialism hasn't been tried" or "look at the scandinavian countries" or "it's a good idea in theory, and if we could just get it right".

How many times must history show that it just won't work before people get the point that it's just a bad idea? I forget who said this, but I remember a quote stating the best proof that intelligent life exists outside of earth is the fact that they've never contacted us.

You realize that communist countries tend to also be dictatorships right? There's a reason for that. Because without a government forcing everyone to do what they say, communism and socialism won't work.

[Lachlan]

Isn't there not really any socialist or communist countries anymore?

Venezuala, China, Cuba are 3 off the top of my head. You can find a list of some more if you googled. They still exist sadly.

Yeah Draque, I've come to learn that like with many faulty positions, they tend to gravitate towards a few key points, and once you learn to refute those, they really have nothing left to say. Worthwhile anyway.

It's almost always the same with folks who promote socialism. It's either "real socialism hasn't been tried" or "look at the scandinavian countries" or "it's a good idea in theory, and if we could just get it right".

How many times must history show that it just won't work before people get the point that it's just a bad idea? I forget who said this, but I remember a quote stating the best proof that intelligent life exists outside of earth is the fact that they've never contacted us.

You realize that communist countries tend to also be dictatorships right? There's a reason for that. Because without a government forcing everyone to do what they say, communism and socialism won't work.

There was this interesting video I watched that was saying maybe because we haven't gotten messages is they are more advanced and it is like is sending morse codes to people today and nothing will pick up because they might not use that form of communication anymore

[Meliva]

An interesting theory I heard was that our race and civilization actually popped up relatively early in the grand scheme of things, so we may be the most advanced species in the universe. Any other sentient species are behind us at the moment.

[The Lamb]

aren't they all kinda dictatorships though? Isn't china capitalist?

Dictatorships and fascist regimes go hand and hand with communism/socialism, she is right, with finite resources you have to control inputs and outputs of production.

No the People's Republic of China is a communist state.

[The Lamb]

Oh yeah Kim, we may be getting contact all the time and dont know how to hear it. An ant is unaware of our existence till we step on it lol

[Lachlan]

An interesting theory I heard was that our race and civilization actually popped up relatively early in the grand scheme of things, so we may be the most advanced species in the universe. Any other sentient species are behind us at the moment.

yeah that would be cool, teaching primitive civilizations to do things

[Meliva]

An interesting theory I heard was that our race and civilization actually popped up relatively early in the grand scheme of things, so we may be the most advanced species in the universe. Any other sentient species are behind us at the moment.

yeah that would be cool, teaching primitive civilizations to do things

Frankly I don't see things going well for the primitive civilization based on our own personal history of what happens when a more advanced society meets a less advanced one. If we did that to our own kind, I'd hate to imagine what we'd do to a different species.

But I'm a bit of a cynic. Maybe things will work out. I am doubtful though.

[Lachlan]

An interesting theory I heard was that our race and civilization actually popped up relatively early in the grand scheme of things, so we may be the most advanced species in the universe. Any other sentient species are behind us at the moment.

yeah that would be cool, teaching primitive civilizations to do things

Frankly I don't see things going well for the primitive civilization based on our own personal history of what happens when a more advanced society meets a less advanced one. If we did that to our own kind, I'd hate to imagine what we'd do to a different species.

But I'm a bit of a cynic. Maybe things will work out. I am doubtful though.

I mean like let them develop by themselves largely but we study them from afar so we can learn more about ourselves and our species in the process like how different aliens evolve but if they are struggling to get to the next technology level give them hints and stuff.