William one eye wrote:I have seen police reach an arm in through a doorway and cuff my freinds wrist because he would not come out of his apartment. He had just seen his roomate comply and get arrested for drunk in public the moment he stepped out side.
When he attempted to break free he pulled the cop into the apartment. Then Someone slammed the door shut. Now the cop is screwed.
Hes stuck in an apartment full of drunk guys.
He pulls his mace and got punched by someone and they took his mace.
A group of cops then kick the door open beat my friend nearly onconsious. Cuff him and take him to jail.
Why. Because the cops were jerks.
No it was because a bunch of drunk trouble makers created a very dangerous situation for them by not complying.
You are not going to make a dent in my opinion on this.
I have seen it from the troublemaker side to many times. Everyone i have ever known that claimed they were treated unfairly by the cops deseved it. I have know a lot of them and i knew what they were up to and often had to cover for them because i can keep my head level in almost any situation.
No knock warrents are to prevent desruction of evidence.
Warrents are issued by judges not police.
They are requested by investigators not by zealous cops.
I would argue in the case of Breonna,
A no knock was not appropriate. However i cannot see the evidence that was provided to the judge.
I watched the leaked floyd video. They police were patient curtious and respectful. Floyd was not fighting but he was not complying either.
He is asked repeatedly to get in the police suv on his own.
They even offer that they will roll down the windows to make him feel more comfortable. He still will not get in.
Eventually they push him into the suv. He then escapes the far side of the suv. The video i saw does no show what happened next. Does this make his death acceptable. No
However he was given plently of opportunity to comply.
If was not blatent brutality as it is portayed.
You keep saying the system does not punish cops.
But then you make arguments portraying them as the bad guy off some social media or news commentary you herd with out fact checking it.
The figure with authority is always going to be a more credible witness than the buddies of the crack dealer that was shot by a cop. The testemony of other cops present is going to weigh more.
If they are not honest. That is purgery. Body and dash cam footage does not lie, so if it refutes their testomony they are screwed.
Im certain bad cops shoot good people and get away with it.
Im certain good cops accidentally shoot good and bad people
And sometimes they are let off to easy.
Sometimes innocent people get convicted.
The system is not perfect. No ammount of protesting roiting
vandalism, looting or killimg will give you a perfect system.
Want less police incidents. Decriminalize acts that are not overly harmful to others. Like carrying small ammounts of drugs that could only be enough for personal use. Or perhaphs even decriminalize them all together.
I mostly disagree with everything accept what you said at the end. Decriminalizing some crimes could help.
Anyway at least we are just in disagreement and not arguing over facts and stuff like that, because that's when it gets stupid
There is evidence that Chauvin knew Floyd before the incident. If so, then it would make sense that Floyd would resist arrest if he knew that Chauvin intended to do him harm. And now the secret is buried six feet under ground. We will never know for sure the full story. All I know is that no matter what Chauvin had against Floyd, what he did was psycho. Imagine sitting on someone's neck for 8 minutes straight, ignoring their pleas as they die. Pure psycho.
I'll tell you this: If Chauvin doesn't get convicted, there will be more protests, more looting, more rioting, and will only further prove my point.
Draque:
I did not make up the numbers. Those are real statistics. I don't think that cops are going around looking for trouble, but I've already told you what the problem is. You can be ignorant to the problem or you can face it head on. Your choice.
