William one eye wrote:You missinterperted my point on religion and science.
Science has boundries crossing those boundries often proves previous science incorrect and only opens up new boundries to explore. I was claiming science to not be omnipitent.
And that i do not believe scientific fact or lack of scientific fact can explain away a creator, god or gods.
I Personally do not believe their is an omnipitent creator watching our every move. Specifically guiding us.
Protecting us, or harming us. I veiw it more like planting some flower seed in front if your house and seeing what happens.
Maybe you water them, maybe you dont, mabe you spray poision on the beettles eating them, or maybe you think the beetles have the right to eat them. Maybe you train them on a trellis or just let them do as they please. Maybe you weed snd mulch to give them the best chance for success or perhaphs you allow them to be independant and let the mix with the natrually ocvuring flora. You planted them but you are not obligated to do any more than you want to after that.
Take this on any scale level you please, individusl creatures, enitre spiecies, entire plants enitre solar sytems, unuverses ect.
Maybe we are just some beings terrarium. I only know what i can physically comprehend.
Ah, that makes a bit more sense. I have a somewhat similar view, I think if their was some sort of creator, they think of us like a game of sims. Sometimes they might mess with us for fun, sometimes they might help us out if they feel like it, but largely they just watch and observe, and see what crazy things we do next. I also agree that science can't currently prove that their is no greater being, or creator, though, their is no definitive proof that their is one either, so it's all just speculation ultimately. However, based on how the world is, I think it's safe to say that if their is a creator, then they clearly either lack the power to help us all the time, or clearly don't want to. Same for hurting us. The world is too messed up and unfair for me to believe in a caring loving all powerful creator, but it's not so messed up and unfair for me to believe in the opposite. If their is a creator, I think they are more neutral then anything.