TRUMP 2020!

[William one eye]

Meliva, you are suggesting your vote should count more than someone elses.

[William one eye]

So lets say im conservative and i live in california.
Why even bother to go out to vote. No chance the state will swing. Now lets say im a liberal in tennesee. Same thing.

With popular my vote counts no matter what way i choose to vote or which way my state swings. Its now always worth it to go out and vote for everyone.

[Mack]

us umpteen million new yorkers and californians say no guns well sht that skrews everyone then. i dont think that would be cool... we like guns here.

just as an example .. ideas very across the land is the point

[Meliva]

No, I'm suggesting that thanks to the electoral college, Kansas and other low population states have an impact on who becomes president.

Because of it, some votes weigh differently then others, that is true. But again, the president should be elected by winning states, not people. Otherwise what's the point in even trying to win people over in places like Alaska, Wyoming, Kansas, etc? All those states combined don't even amount to half of New york or California.

Personally, what I think would be a better method would be to have the electoral college, but have the votes in the college divided up based on popular vote in a state.

So if for example, roughly 1 6th of folks in Kansas voted democrat, then one of the 6 electorates will count for them rather then the winner take all rule.

That way, all states would have an impact, but votes will still matter.

There may be something wrong with this idea that I'm not thinking of, other then potential confusion in how to divide the votes, but I think a hybrid of popular and electoral would be ideal.

[William one eye]

Maybe california can peacefully secede.

[Mack]

[Meliva]

I'd be fine with that. Honestly I think if any state want's to secede they should be allowed to. Of course, there would be a period of time before they are allowed to leave where the US will need to take anything that belongs to the feds. You know, military, certain supplies, disable any sort of resources they were being given by other states, etc. Then, If and when that state ends up devastated and ruined, they could ask to rejoin the states. Or if by some miracle they manage, good on them.

[Mack]

lol yep

[Leo the Conqueror]

Last time states tried to succeed you know what happened... good luck

[Mack]

i think they tried to do it by force not by paperwork