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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby DezNutz » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:39 am

Blue mustache wrote:lol what did trump do good for us? Good for some, bad for others, same with obama.


Removed unnecessary regulations.

Economic Growth reached over 3%, a percentage Zero said we would never reach again.

Lowest unemployment rates in decades, prior to the pandemic, specifically among minorities.

Allies are actually paying their fair share into things like NATO.

Made actual progress with Rocketman instead of kicking the can down the road like the previous administrations.

Didn't p***y foot around when Syria gassed its own citizens. Just put his foot in their ass.

Dropped a MOAB on some taliban shit heads.

Decimated ISIS.

There is plenty more, but I'll leave it at this for now.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Meliva » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:57 am

Lachlan wrote:
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Lachlan wrote:wow what is this lol, I can sense the stupidity in some cases of what people are saying here... And why did this go from trump to coronavirus then refugees or something and now borders


It probably changed due to the fact that not everyone approves of how Trump is handling those issues. Besides, conversations change over time, so it's not like it's a strange that the topic drifted into other subjects over time.

yeah well let's just say there is more arguing in this thread than a lot of the usual ones


I mean, it's politics. There's a pretty good reason why it's one of the topics that should rarely be talked about. It tends to cause arguments.

And Blue, that is NOT what open borders means. It's like you don't even know what you're asking for, so since you apparently don't know what an open border is, here is the definition.

Open border-An open border is a border that enables free movement of people (and often of goods) between jurisdictions with few or no restrictions on movement, that is lacking substantive border control

Where the hell is anything about citizenship mentioned ANYWHERE, in that definiton? Hell what you described is a closed border-as you mention several restrictions on movement(checking background history, checking for drugs etc.)
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby DezNutz » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:25 am

Hey! Don't confuse him with facts.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Meliva » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:15 am

DezNutz wrote:Hey! Don't confuse him with facts.


But you used facts too, and I just wanted to hang out with the cool kids for once :P
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:59 pm

Bruh I'm 99 years old haven't you seen my profile?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjtRbz1LE4Y

It's Fox so you can't pull the "leftist bias" card
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby DezNutz » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:47 pm

Blue mustache wrote:Bruh I'm 99 years old haven't you seen my profile?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjtRbz1LE4Y

It's Fox so you can't pull the "leftist bias" card


That video isn't FOX. That's a video that's clearly edited of an interview done by FOXNews. Claiming it to be fox is about as truthful as Bruce Jenner saying he is a woman.

This might be the worst attempt I've ever seen.

Post the original unedited interview. I'm sure there is no context missing.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:55 pm

It's Kaitlin Jenner, and you have no right to decide what gender she is. Why do you even care? It's none of your business.

So if it was edited, would that really change anything? He said what he said, edited or not.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Meliva » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:57 pm

Blue mustache wrote:It's Kaitlin Jenner, and you have no right to decide what gender she is. Why do you even care? It's none of your business.

So if it was edited, would that really change anything? He said what he said, edited or not.



I will agree that no one should care what someone else wants to say they are, so long as they don't try to force others to agree with them. Just like I don't care what 2 men, women, man and a woman, woman and 3 men, man and 3 women with a clown do in a private bedroom. That being said, you can't change your sex, if you're born a male, your sex will be male, and vice versa, but if a man want's to call himself a woman or vice versa, more power to them, so long as they don't intend to force other's to agree.

Onto your 2nd point, do you not realize how much context can matter? Or how editing some clips can completely change the context of some statements? Just look up some of weird Al Yankovich's celebrity interviews. You know, where he edits himself into talking to some celebs. That is both very entertaining and should hopefully show you just how much clever edits can change what someone says.

Edit-I will also say that honestly, people shouldn't care what X celeb says, or does, I really do not know why so many people are so invested in them. As my father once said, their crap stinks just as bad as the rest of ours :D
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:56 pm

Yep so I watched the full interview, and the context really doesn't change anything. Here it is, but it's 40 minutes long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6XdpDOH1JA  
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Meliva » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:31 pm

Gotta say, your latest signature is easily your worst one yet. Some opinions and people should not be respected. If a man told you that he believed anyone with red hair is soulless and needed to be burned alive, do you think his opinion is valid and he should be treated with respect? Or if someone believed that anyone who doesn't have brown eyes is inferior to those who do and should be slaves to the brown eyed folks, is his opinion valid and he should be treated with respect? Or if a man thinks that women should be completely obedient and submissive to any man?

Respect is something that has to be earned, it's not something anyone is automatically owed. Now you SHOULD try to be civil and polite, unless the other person is undeserving of it, but that is not the same as respect. It seems like so many people nowadays think so many things should just be freely given to them without being earned. That is not how reality works though.
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