Biden 2020

[Meliva]

He created the space force for starters, he also took out Abu Bakr, he's also been doing a good job with foreign trade deals. Getting rid of old ones that were not very good for America and making new ones. He also is confronting China, too many folks either bow down to them or just ignore them.

[sXs]

I am sorry Meliva but I cannot help but point out that Trump is making USA lose it’s position globally over silly reasons.
He was also caught contradicting himself and lying about it many times. Every time he is criticized or their is a disaster somewhere, it is fake news and he is the victim. He has no responsibility or accountability or reasoning whatsoever. He only works based of publicity reports by his advisors and TV.
That may be smart for an actor but for a president, that is recipe for disaster and his presidency has been nothing but that. A disaster. If anyone says the US is in a better position on a single thing since Obama because of something Trump actually did and was right about it, I will swallow my socks!

If you Take numbers before CV-19, I can name about 10 things off the top of my head that the US was in a better position than when Obama was in office.

..... but of course, Trump caused CV-19 as well so we cant do that.

Just out of curiosity, please name 1 accomplishment of Obama that made this country better than when he took office.....

[sXs]

MANUFACTURING JOBS

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2018/10/16/the-trump-manufacturing-jobs-boom-10-times-obamas-over-21-months/#648d96485850
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/manufacturing-employment-in-the-us-is-at-the-same-level-of-69-years-ago-2019-01-04

NATO

In 2016 only 4 NATO countries met their 2% of GDP commitment for contribution.... as of 2019 9 countries.... Trump not Obama https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-match-us-contribution-to-nato-budget/a-51446211 https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/12/03/nato-summit-the-countries-meeting-the-2-threshold-infographic/#3614142b1f2c

Unemployment

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/black-and-hispanic-unemployment-is-at-a-record-low.html
https://www.atr.org/24-states-have-seen-record-low-unemployment-under-trump

Tax cuts

Corporate and personal tax rate cuts went into effect Dec. 20 2017. Yet treasury department saw record high tax revenue through 2018 and 2019.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-tax-cuts-federal-revenues-deficits/
.... but how could that be???

Religious Liberty

It sounds like you hate this one, but there is a reason the founders made religious freedom the first amendment.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-safeguarding-right-religious-freedom-students-organizations/
This isn't just about Christians, it is for all religions. Considering on 3.1% of citizens in the US are athiest.... this is a big deal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_States#:~:text=The%20Pew%20Religious%20Landscape%20survey,atheist%20and%205%25%20being%20agnostic.

Criminal justice reform

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Step_Act..... Trump not Obama..... In fact it was Uncle Joe that wrote the bill that caused many of the issues facing the black community and incarceration today. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/20/18677998/joe-biden-1994-crime-bill-law-mass-incarceration

I can keep going if you like......

.... but if you like your doctor you can keep him...... and every family will save an average of $2500 a year under Obamacare....https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/07/28/overwhelming-evidence-that-obamacare-caused-premiums-to-increase-substantially/#3a6f7c9b15be

2011 Uninsured 48.6 million
2020 uninsured 27 million

Obamcare 10 year cost according to Congressional Budget Office $1.8 trillion

So Obamacare covered an additional 21 million people for an average per person cost of $85,714.29 over 10 years
In 2019 the average insurance premium on the private market was $7188. X 10 =71,880

..... yes look it up yourself that is accurate. Government insurance costs all of $13,834 more per person than the private marketplace..... and that is being paid for by the American taxpayers.

Cost of Obamacare $1,800,000,000,000 / 340,000,000(Citizens)/ 10 years = $526 per person or $2104 per family per year..... all to insure 21 million

[William one eye]

Just out of curiosity, please name 1 accomplishment of Obama that made this country better than when he took office.....

He made it possible for low income families to have acess to the worst health insurance coverage you can possibly buy, and imposed applicable fines if they dont buy it. While proving loop holes where in some states insurance companies are no longer required to provide policies for individulals who want plans not offered in the market place. Meaning if you want decent coverage you had better work for a company who is willing to pay through the teeth to get their employees top coverage or is big enough to get good rates because they are providing enough coverage to hedge out the risk.

Im not much for socialized systems, but i would have rather seen a basic socialized care option rather than empowement of big insurance and ambulance chasers.

Uk system while not perfect has NHS. In which everyone gets care. It may not be quick, it may be in a ward, instead of a private room, but you get treatment. If you have the money to pay for better service or more comfort they have private health care providers also. I dont think its the anwser either but its better than what we got.

[The Lamb]

Biden quote of the Day

"What you all know, but most people don’t know, unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community, with incredibly different attitudes about different things,” Biden told the panel Wednesday.

you just cant make this stuff up

[Argo]

"No, I haven't taken a test. Why the hell would I take a test? Come on, man,” Biden said. “That's like saying to you, before you got on this program if you had taken a test were you taking cocaine or not. What do you think, huh? Are you a junkie?"


say no more....lol

[Leo]

I'd like us to put our political opinions aside to look at this:

Trump's 2020 campaign logo was accused of ripping of the Nazi insignia...

[The Lamb]

LMAO!

That poster does make sense, alot of people dont know that The Nazi's were the The National Socialist German Workers' Party. Its a misinterpretation (obviously accidental of course ) that since the nazi's were fighting communists, and communists are far left that the nazi's were far right, its actually the opposite, the Nazi's were National Socialists which arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of socialism centered more closely to Mussolini's fascism, as an alternative to both Marxists (left) and capitalism (right).

They were a far left group trying to redefine socialism

Even Mussolini started out a socialist but repudiated socialism in disgust and in the,1920s he founded political fascism which synthesized the working-class edge of socialism with militant nationalism but opposed both capitalism and socialism. This would indicate that fascism in not right or left but more of a third option, maybe just a d bag. lol Yes i know there are some who try and say fascism is far right yet again... noppers.

Turns out all you need to do, gather like minded people who are worried about something, make enemies of those who "oppressed your people" or "are the reason for our troubles", start protests, riots and intimidate anyone who doesnt believe what you do, for the Nazi's it was the brown shirts, for Mussolini the black shirts, have these groups start physically attacking your political opponents or other forms of violence, tear down the existing fabric of society with fear, tell people you can fix everything with an ideology and poof pow new nut job republic.

Good times.

[Lachlan]

LMAO!

That poster does make sense, alot of people dont know that The Nazi's were the The National Socialist German Workers' Party. Its a misinterpretation (obviously accidental of course ) that since the nazi's were fighting communists, and communists are far left that the nazi's were far right, its actually the opposite, the Nazi's were National Socialists which arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of socialism centered more closely to Mussolini's fascism, as an alternative to both Marxists (left) and capitalism (right).

They were a far left group trying to redefine socialism

Even Mussolini started out a socialist but repudiated socialism in disgust and in the,1920s he founded political fascism which synthesized the working-class edge of socialism with militant nationalism but opposed both capitalism and socialism. This would indicate that fascism in not right or left but more of a third option, maybe just a d bag. lol Yes i know there are some who try and say fascism is far right yet again... noppers.

Turns out all you need to do, gather like minded people who are worried about something, make enemies of those who "oppressed your people" or "are the reason for our troubles", start protests, riots and intimidate anyone who doesnt believe what you do, for the Nazi's it was the brown shirts, for Mussolini the black shirts, have these groups start physically attacking your political opponents or other forms of violence, tear down the existing fabric of society with fear, tell people you can fix everything with an ideology and poof pow new nut job republic.

Good times.

wouldn't capitalism be centre? Since democracy is centre and it usually goes with capitalism

[Lachlan]

Just out of curiosity, please name 1 accomplishment of Obama that made this country better than when he took office.....

He made it possible for low income families to have acess to the worst health insurance coverage you can possibly buy, and imposed applicable fines if they dont buy it. While proving loop holes where in some states insurance companies are no longer required to provide policies for individulals who want plans not offered in the market place. Meaning if you want decent coverage you had better work for a company who is willing to pay through the teeth to get their employees top coverage or is big enough to get good rates because they are providing enough coverage to hedge out the risk.

Im not much for socialized systems, but i would have rather seen a basic socialized care option rather than empowement of big insurance and ambulance chasers.

Uk system while not perfect has NHS. In which everyone gets care. It may not be quick, it may be in a ward, instead of a private room, but you get treatment. If you have the money to pay for better service or more comfort they have private health care providers also. I dont think its the anwser either but its better than what we got.

well I think it was better than what you guys previously had but what you guys really need is something like medicare here in Australia. I mean with all the shootings there your gonna need it and frankly I don't get why people need so many guns, I mean I can understand like a pistol or something for self defence but you can get machine guns there and all sorts of crazy stuff and what I really don't get is why would a 18 year old be able to get a rifle which probably has longer range and is more dangerous than a handgun which you can't get when you are 18?