WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

[Dmanwuzhere]

I believe I addressed several issues and if I had a single sentence to express I would have done so.
you can choose to find one accusation in my post if you like but I see far more than 1.
you are not a dense man and I will not babysit my post while you pose a selective question
and engage in selective reading comprehension.
The actions boil down to one sentence for me but the actions I listed that are your transgressions if you will are problematic as well.
You can respond to the whole post or not.
I care not one whit.
You posed a question I answered take it in whole or not
It matters little to me as words do not change actions

[Black sparrow]

Can you put all your accusations in sentences then? Nice and clear.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Lol no. I thought them clear as i wrote them.
and I as you may have noticed through my vacancy in the tavern
limited myself to my time here.
And I am done til easily mid-evening.
By then if your selective reading comprehension has not been remedied I might
but i doubt it
I do not like dissecting my own posts as it takes away from my post.
much like when you have to explain a joke it ruins the humor.

[PhoenixKnight]

I am still waiting on TK to come back to me with the requested detail.
However, I feel that everyone here rather dish it out!

[Astragek]

Feniks I wish i was at liberty to say what you need to hear, but i am not.

Rest assured, TK put forth more effort in the past 24 hrs than I have yet seen in this game. The amount of influence that was taken by unknown peoples and replenished the past 24 hours, the amount of population that was lost due to unknown forces at work in all their ports and replenished, Baramas lost 1.3 billion alone.

I promise you, atleast as far as TK is concerned, this had nothing to do with ego.

Trust me, IoM has shown immense support too. As soon as they noticed my influence dropping, even before a decision on our movements had been decided, CD's were thrown on me. Not to mention the amount that had been thrown my way during the prop attacks.


And yes, prop attacks DID start about a week before a final decision on our move was made. I have received multiple PM's from people saying to keep an eye on our influence, because it's dropping hard, and if we wouldn't keep it up, they'd be taking the port away from us.


And yes it does s**k that El Draque and me, weren't going to stick together because of IoM's raid on him. I probably would've told them to stick it too. But my decision was made. Unfortunately, his path went a different way. We had discussed what was going to happen to Baramas, and I had spoken to Will about it, and told him that if me and Draque were to join IoM, Draque was to remain Governor of Baramas. This to thank him for his loyalty to Kiribati and to me. Even though he might've been better as a King, he never once complained, and always tried to move the Nation forward.
What we hadn't discussed however, what to do with the port when we would each go our own way. And due to all the prop bs, didn't even get a chance to discuss, as the damage had already been done.

[sXs]

Can you put all your accusations in sentences then? Nice and clear.

TK Has every right, Just like every nation in Avonmora, to battle for the port. Issue is your reasoning. Just state it truthfully.

We have heard claims of recouping costs of some banker years gone by..... if so this has only made the losses greater

We have heard claims of protection of the port from offense....... As stated the port was under no threat and needed no protection. In fact IoM had been propping up astra and the port for days before hand.

TK wants a port.. great... try and take it. Just be honorable and say "TK is foregoing it's policy of non-aggression and expanding" Simple.

All the other claims may sound good but are just "fake news" or smoke screens.

[Black sparrow]

Since I was coordinating everything from nearly at the start of all of this, I do know the timeline from my side. And I know that our reasoning changed multiple times as we never knew the full story since the start.

When I simply added 14M influence there, I just wanted to boost my influence a bit, across Avonmora. There was no second thought, I did it right away. I even added an extra 14M at Vaasburg by mistake. Then, I also asked SHM to do the same, he is a King, he needs to diversify his influence. So with this move, we had 2 objectives fulfilled:
1)We signaled that TK will defend Kiribati.
2)We did this at no real overhead, as this influence had its uses for us for TK defense.

But this was before we learn that there was a deal between IoM and Astragek. Hearing the details of the deal, we were shocked. When we realized that Kiribati disbands and the whole story behind it, I personally was enraged.

Should TK have not interfered at all, IoM would had an extra port at no cost. A present from Astragek in the expense of a nation larger than IoM. This is not what we all silently accepted for when Baramas was given to Grenada. This is not what we all silently accepted when Baramas was inherited by Kiribati.

So at that case, I guess Feniks, you would be fine, right? If IoM had the port now and nothing has ever happened, you would not post here questioning them, or would you?

[Shadowood]

[PhoenixKnight]

I guess that is for IOM since you are still deciding on your counter proposal

[Shadowood]

This is a general comment for all the negotiators out there. As I am not in the talks directly I am getting bored and impatient with all the Crazy Stupid numbers that are being discussed. Give me a break.

All I can say is if something is not agreed upon soon, I will wage war on Black Sparrow and SHM at reset.