WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

[Poppy]

There was a cost. We added influence to protect the port. There is always a cost in ports.

As you are fully aware of.

How much have you invested and lost in the last 24 hours.

seems that half of Kiri active membership didnt feel the deal was fair and then you attacked him and he nulled the deal. TK came to the rescue and you keep claiming you had a deal to get a 2.1b pop port for free.

that is too bad and now its time to whine on the forum for Vudu

if we had a poll going i bet only vudu would justify your claim

[Most Lee Harmless]

No nation really 'owns' any port.. its a nonsense notion for then the only true claimants are those who took it first... but somehow I doubt many here would consider Wales as the real owners of many of the ports. Length of tenure then? Nope cos then Barbados iwns most... see.. its a nonsense.
In truth the only true owner is whomsoever owns a port this side of reset... and whomsoever owns it after reset can be a whole diffferent flag and no less 'true' at that.
The test of ownership is, at heart, can you take it and then can you keep it. All else is mirrors and dust, noise and confusion.

[Banger]

No nation really 'owns' any port.. its a nonsense notion for then the only true claimants are those who took it first... but somehow I doubt many here would consider Wales as the real owners of many of the ports. Length of tenure then? Nope cos then Barbados iwns most... see.. its a nonsense.
In truth the only true owner is whomsoever owns a port this side of reset... and whomsoever owns it after reset can be a whole diffferent flag and no less 'true' at that.
The test of ownership is, at heart, can you take it and then can you keep it. All else is mirrors and dust, noise and confusion.

I 100% agree with this.

[sXs]

I actually wouldn't mind it sitting in the hands of SKN for temp measure.

[Dmanwuzhere]

There was a cost. We added influence to protect the port. There is always a cost in ports.

As you are fully aware of.

How much have you invested and lost in the last 24 hours.

seems that half of Kiri active membership didnt feel the deal was fair and then you attacked him and he nulled the deal. TK came to the rescue and you keep claiming you had a deal to get a 2.1b pop port for free.

that is too bad and now its time to whine on the forum for Vudu

if we had a poll going i bet only vudu would justify your claim

The guy in question has a lvl17 goldsmith and half a billion as a backbone how exactly did TK come to the rescue?
The answer is you didnt.
That is just part of the image you wish to portray.

[The Lamb]

Dman its level 14 in a few days, and I had that backbone until you took all my pretty ships and sold them for the resources you say you lost and I had to start rebuilding. Im pretty sure I even bought back some of my ships from the Market. Lmao You offered help and attacked, they offered help and helped. Wasn't a hard decision.

To Daniks point, I think its getting lost here in the chatter. Kiri had a handful of actives literally at most.
A few points.
1. deal was made for smooth transition with 2 of top Kiri
2. One of two no longer wanted deal after events took place
3. Governor of Port in question fought as did other Nations to keep Port.

Were is the problem? UK has 4 ports, St Kitts 4 ports, Spain 4 ports, IoM 3 ports and TK now has 3
IoM has 7 people, and 3 ports. How many actives in the game? How many nations? So it has nothing to do with fairness or distribution.

It doesnt matter why TK wants to control Baramas be it temporarily or permanently does it? They put in the resources to secure it for themselves.

[PhoenixKnight]

If TK takes the port, will they relinquish it to IOM within 30 days or will they choose to give it to an aspiring nation?

If the former, I think IOM can live with that.
If the later, can IOM live with that?

[Dmanwuzhere]

Dman its level 14 in a few days, and I had that backbone until you took all my pretty ships and sold them for the resources you say you lost and I had to start rebuilding. Im pretty sure I even bought back some of my ships from the Market. Lmao You offered help and attacked, they offered help and helped. Wasn't a hard decision.

To Daniks point, I think its getting lost here in the chatter. Kiri had a handful of actives literally at most.
A few points.
1. deal was made for smooth transition with 2 of top Kiri
2. One of two no longer wanted deal after events took place
3. Governor of Port in question fought as did other Nations to keep Port.

Were is the problem? UK has 4 ports, St Kitts 4 ports, Spain 4 ports, IoM 3 ports and TK now has 3
IoM has 7 people, and 3 ports. How many actives in the game? How many nations? So it has nothing to do with fairness or distribution.

It doesnt matter why TK wants to control Baramas be it temporarily or permanently does it? They put in the resources to secure it for themselves.

14 lol my bad what resources have I claimed to lose?
If you speak of any discussion with BS then I offered my numbers to hear his.
And even that is silly he purports to claim a loss on Baramas when it was Grenada.
I know who lost on Grenada and he wasnt on that list.
Mugiwara had a billion dollar debt ........ and he paid them off..... with interest.
so if anything he has made money on it as Grenada and as Kiri.
I don't cry I will debate but I don't cry.
I will even jab and jeer but not cry.
I have said all I need to to those who matter they know my game plan and thats what I am sticking to.

[William one eye]

It doesnt matter why TK wants to control Baramas be it temporarily or permanently does it? They put in the resources to secure it for themselves.

Isle put resources there to secure it for you and Astra, and others that were implied as still or may be still active.
This was requested of Isle, not voluntary.

This was attempt to merge two nations who both had few members
It did not work out. The resources we put in are lost - no big deal.



You were un happy why did you not message me and say hey its actually only me and Astra and I don't want this anymore.
would have saved a lot of trouble.

I will now view this as TK figthing for their port against those who would try to take it from them.

[William one eye]

If TK takes the port, will they relinquish it to IOM within 30 days or will they choose to give it to an aspiring nation?

If the former, I think IOM can live with that.
If the later, can IOM live with that?

It is pretty clear 50% of kiribati does not want Isle to have the port and I would respect that.

I am fine with the later, but prefer it gifted sooner.