tmn and fox truce

[Juicypotato]

OK. As of right now based on the evidence lets have the big player's with a neutral perspective their views and let's have them tell us what should be done.
Be sure to observe all the details and chat conversations.......

[Random pandah]

i think roi needs to sniff juicy and come up with a plan once he comes off the high

[Roileon]

OK. As of right now based on the evidence lets have the big player's with a neutral perspective their views and let's have them tell us what should be done.
Be sure to observe all the details and chat conversations.......

I agree, lets let them do the talking for this.

i think roi needs to sniff juicy and come up with a plan once he comes off the high

Because I agree with Juicylettuce here, I have decided that Fox's best course of action, is to just do what the big players suggest.

[Random pandah]

^_^ my advice is the best, even when i say get high!

[Shaydo]

I outsmarted you on taking IMO out of the truce, and you are cleverly responding with this. Nice , let's see what happens next.

So would i be right in thinking you deliberately made sure IMO was not included in the truce, and made sure the official wording didn't include any mention of the IMO?

If so i'd assume that it was so you were free to attack IMO knowing you'd bound TMN by a truce and that they couldn't do there job and defend IMO members?

So you tried to make a truce with one of a pair of allies, hoping that truce would protect you from retribution should you attack their allie... Surely it would obvious that an alliance is worth more than a truce.

[Juicypotato]

I outsmarted you on taking IMO out of the truce, and you are cleverly responding with this. Nice , let's see what happens next.

So would i be right in thinking you deliberately made sure IMO was not included in the truce, and made sure the official wording didn't include any mention of the IMO?

If so i'd assume that it was so you were free to attack IMO knowing you'd bound TMN by a truce and that they couldn't do there job and defend IMO members?

So you tried to make a truce with one of a pair of allies, hoping that truce would protect you from retribution should you attack their allie... Surely it would obvious that an alliance is worth more than a truce.

Shaydo calm down. I was inviting all the players to take part with a neutral view not the angry players that go around falsely accusing people. Actually Lets have any player that is not affiliated with fox or tmn to express their views. Big or small.
I need to start using the preview button more instead of editing. I always leave out a word or 2 when i'm writing/typing.

[Edward_Teach]

I outsmarted you on taking IMO out of the truce, and you are cleverly responding with this. Nice , let's see what happens next.

So would i be right in thinking you deliberately made sure IMO was not included in the truce, and made sure the official wording didn't include any mention of the IMO?

If so i'd assume that it was so you were free to attack IMO knowing you'd bound TMN by a truce and that they couldn't do there job and defend IMO members?

So you tried to make a truce with one of a pair of allies, hoping that truce would protect you from retribution should you attack their allie... Surely it would obvious that an alliance is worth more than a truce.

Everything that has been stated here i agree with. You know besides Roi comment. I meen come on Roi you are a guild leader, at least act as smart as one. Making a truce with one side and not the other, is similar to a kid asking one parent for something than asking the other to get what he wants, it never works out for the kid the kid gets grounded and gets consequences your consequences are you are going to be attacked and, hopefully, taught a lesson.

[Captain dungeness]

Juicylettuce asked me about this thread so I thought I would post our coversation (which is mostly just me typing).

Of course, take it with a grain of salt:

Me: thats a lot of words
Me: so i will try to sum itup:
Me: Achillies messed up in writing the truce and didn't include IMO so Fox attacked some IMO (where they high fame players or newbies?)
juicylettuce: high fame
Me: ok so technically Fox did abide by the truce
juicylettuce: yes
Me: people who are saying Fox broke the truce because that chatroom mentioned not attacking IMO NEWBIES are wrong
Me: newbies are not high fame players that have been around for months
juicylettuce: yep
Me: so Achillies had a few options at that point: rewrite the truce, destroy the truce or muddy the waters by trying to say the truce included IMO the whole time
Me: it looks like he did the last option but that will only cause disagreement
juicylettuce: you are correct
Me: so now either the truce needs to be rewritten to include everything both sides want
Me: or the truce needs to be called over and go to war
juicylettuce: the only thing is achillies broke his own truce
juicylettuce: and he was supposed to wait 2 to 3 days before launching voodoo which he said
Me: right, i saw that he cast a ton of voodoo
Me: so that would mean the truce is over and a new one needs to be made asap so war doesnt restart
Me: or just slug it out
Me: also, Fox can't call an undefined number of its members "merchants" to exclude them from the war. If they need to do that then they need to list the participants before the war
Me: that's just my opinion
Me: good luck

[Shaydo]

Did i angrily accuse someone of something, you've lost me?
All i asked was a question in the hopes of ascertaining a fact, the wording of his post made it sound like keeping any wording of IMO out of the agreement was a plan from the start, if so there would need to be a reason, logic presented the most obvious one?

[Juicypotato]

Did i angrily accuse someone of something, you've lost me?
All i asked was a question in the hopes of ascertaining a fact, the wording of his post made it sound like keeping any wording of IMO out of the agreement was a plan from the start, if so there would need to be a reason, logic presented the most obvious one?

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Achillies made his own truce, broke it, and launches a massive voodoo attack when he was supposed to wait 48 to 72 hours like he said he was. Achillies looks over the truce and agrees to it and imo is not included. Did Roi use mindcontrol and force Achillies to agree to a truce he didn't want or did achillies make a truce he didn't like so he could break it later on?