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Re: Biography time

Postby Lana » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:08 pm

I must admit that this thread caused great curiosity on my part. :D Otherwise, I love to solve all kinds of puzzles, so I put myself into action.

What I discovered:

The first 80 players in the player list are in the category 897 BAT
Most of the numbers below 80 are missing, but several players over the number 80, also fall into the category 897BAT (General Grasshopper #777, for example). The conclusion is that he changed his account, and the previous one is deleted, but this newer is listed as the first one (probably took all the benefits from the first account, as voodoo chest, money, loans, etc.).

In the case that player starts a brand-new account, without the legacy of the previous one (case Pirate Roberts-John Avery), then the previous account is counted by the day when the new account being made (regardless of what account history shows - that it previously existed), and the new account of the day when the old account being made.

Now, there are two possibilities: either the player took all the benefits of the old account, but the same is deleted, so it is impossible to trace, or as Pirate Roberts, opened a brand-new account (with 0 credits, voodoo card, etc.), so, it is possible be found by comparing the old and new accounts. (Difficult, but possible).

Now, another important thing - the behavior of the new player:

Instantly, when I saw a profile picture of his ''brother'' on the forum, I commented in a conversation with a friend, that this is an old player. To be honest, I bet on Chal or Juicy (in the sense that some of them opened the double account of the forum).
But…

Some things are acting symptomatic:
- The boy is a forum bird (just entered forum and he already started with a new thread)
- Concealed fan of PR - made an effort to appear (his alter ego), to all fresh threads where PR were active
- Requires attention and aims to its threads have full attention
- Likes to plagiarize (posts, doings, merits...)
- These multi activity (and probably in the game, too), the mention of a brother is also symptomatic
- Insisting on the same age (13) as one (better to say a lot of them), member of the forum community ... but how long more, if your account is so old, you are not a teenager anymore. :D

I'm waiting just to be open the new newspapers, to greet an old acquaintance! ;)
Or... I am totally wrong? :? :lol:
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Re: Biography time

Postby Donald Trump » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:10 pm

Wrong. Asked admin, was debunked in the Biography Thread that when it was created for some reason players would have the date when the server was created.


As well, the Admin can't magically tell a new player from an old player except from testing IP addresses and and their progress. The thing with Avery's account was probably intentional and put in by the Admin himself.

If there was such a feature, I am sure multi-accounters would be banned on the spot instead of their Biography page going back to an earlier date.


Proof: viewtopic.php?p=36748#p36748

We had no records (till only recently) of the exact joining day of every player in Avonmora. So, for the majority of the current players, we have used their join day in Avomora. However, since some joined before the opening of this server, we used the 1st day of this server for such players.

This is why (once it opens) you will see some players with higher character ID having joined the game at an earlier day than a player with a lower char ID. Most of such players though will have the first day of the server at the join date display (897 BAT).


As well, the Admin on post 10 of this thread says this as well.
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Re: Biography time

Postby Lana » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:20 pm

Ohhh, I don't think so! At least, about behavior thing. :D
Btw, when doing research, I discovered one more interesting thing. If you check old and probably inactive accounts of members of Pirates Kings guild, you will found that their bios are hidden. How's that possible, if they are inactive? :?
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Re: Biography time

Postby Donald Trump » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:23 pm

Lana wrote:Ohhh, I don't think so! At least, about behavior thing. :D
Btw, when doing research, I discovered one more interesting thing. If you check old and probably inactive accounts of members of Pirates Kings guild, you will found that their bios are hidden. How's that possible, if they are inactive? :?


And what do you mean by you don't think so lol? The admin on Post 10 of this thread even says this.

On PK:
They aren't. Just silently stalking us and waiting for their return to #1.
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Re: Biography time

Postby Lana » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:28 pm

DoS wrote:
Lana wrote:Ohhh, I don't think so! At least, about behavior thing. :D
Btw, when doing research, I discovered one more interesting thing. If you check old and probably inactive accounts of members of Pirates Kings guild, you will found that their bios are hidden. How's that possible, if they are inactive? :?


And what do you mean by you don't think so lol? The admin on Post 10 of this thread even says this.

On PK:
They aren't. Just silently stalking us and waiting for their return to #1.


Did you read all my post, or only my presumptions of how could be possible that a new player is the old one (meaning his bio)?
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Re: Biography time

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:28 pm

A player who played in the first server (ie in 2009) but joined the Eternal Glory before Avonmora Time (ie Jan 2016), will have 897 BAT as the only time we got for such a fellow, is the time he joined the game.

Truth is that we could use some scripting to determine arrival time (approximately). We can still do it and we may do it at a later date.

Regarding the cases where there have been alchemies in player accounts from administration part, these are very few, probably less than 5. I must also mention that these alchemies are not to be repeated ever again; in the past we would sympathy players who returned and wanted to start afresh and offered options to them to keep their past ID. Nowadays, it is either a hard start (tutorials are OFF for most veterans by default, which means that long-term players never got to play them) OR a brand new start with a brand new character (and lock of the old one).
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Re: Biography time

Postby Lana » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:39 pm

Thanks CJ, for a concise and clear explanation! :)
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Re: Biography time

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:47 pm

Lana wrote:Thanks CJ, for a concise and clear explanation! :)


Another clue is that Cpt D joined the game after Eternal Glory started. So, at number #3397, both servers were certainly still open. This is why Cpt D has an exact day of join but #777 has not. #777 has joined PG before the opening of the second server. However, #300 joined PG after the opening of Eternal Glory. So, #777 even if he joined later the game, it appears that he joined earlier. The same pattern is repeated in higher numbers.
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Re: Biography time

Postby Grogggy » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:07 pm

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