Last one to post wins

[Dmanwuzhere]

Ok-you are indeed very bloody misinformed. Renee good LITERALLY hit the Ice agent-he had bruises on his body-as for why he was standing in front he was walking past it and probably didn't think she was going to try to drive away-you can even hear her wife or partner yell "DRIVE BABY DRIVE" when she was TOLD to get out-after impeding their work. You don't get to harass and make a law enforcements job harder and then cry victim when they decide to arrest you and you DEFINITELY don't get to just drive off and ram into one of them and expect to not get your brain blown out-Alex Pretti-was also told by his own FAMILY NOT TO GO PROTEST-and that if he really DID INSIST he does so- to at LEAST do NOT go ARMED-again-Darwin award-he was on video damaging federal property in an incident a while before this.

And yes-Ice agents are using unmarked vehicles and wearing masks. Probably because a lot of idiots are doing whatever they can to stop them from doing their damn jobs, harassing them, their families, and threatening them.

If a law enforcement tells you to do something-just do it-running will make it worse-resisting will make it worse-fighting back will make it worse-fight it in COURT. Jesus-the way some people think you act like they're going to just draw their gun and blow your brains out for looking at them funny-so long as you are polite, respectful and comply, you're going to have a much easier time. Yes some times there is police brutality-but it's an outlier and an exception not the bloody norm.

What exactly do YOU damn well suggest that is better then complying with law enforcement-go on-tell me-I'm all ears. Let's see what you think people should do if ICE tells them to come with them.

What source says he had bruises on his body? From the two videos I watched that seems unclear. I will attach them here though. That agent probably was hit by the car but it looks unclear from what videos I have seen out there. The agent walks in front of the car stands in front of Renee Good's car at least from the video I watched and then stops right in front before pulling his gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiA6LwgYf0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp7psfEayHE

Sure it would have made more sense for Alex Pretti not to bring his gun along but again, he was fully restrained and pepper sprayed, then had his gun taken off him and only after every danger was removed did the agent shoot him not once, which could be considered an accident at a stretch but multiple times. Now I'm no great expert on American law but that seems to be unlawful.

If you think ICE agents wearing masks is good then I'm not sure why you would think that. If ICE agents do the wrong thing then it is highly unlikely they will be identified and punished for whatever wrong thing they have done. There is a reason why most Police forces DO NOT wear masks. I think if masked police in unmarked vehicles were to roll up beside me when I am walking on the road I think it would be reasonable for me to be scared, panic and wonder what they want. Panic then leads to people doing stupid things sometimes.
Yes of course police brutality is not the norm.

Ice defended themselves Pretti Good if you ask me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ9dlMRglBg about 5:10

Pretti was his own killer for owning a SIG Sauer P320 known to fire from any agitation and struggling with officers
A Georgia jury found the P320 defectively designed, awarding $2.35 million to a plaintiff injured by an unintentional discharge. Another jury awarded $11 million to a veteran injured under similar circumstances.
An old video that proves they are and have been faulty for years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK66ua7-Bm0
Really easy to understand that shoot

Amazingly, even with masks, officers were identified
Jesus Ochoa Border Patrol Agent
Raymundo Gutierrez Customs and Border Protection Officer

Oh my, is that even possible? They must have used a psychic to ascertain their identity

Masks were employed by ICE after multiple incidents of doxxing by protesters that resulted in ICE officers' families being targeted for harassment and threat campaigns by agitators.
Assignment paperwork details officers and their assignments, as well as incident reports filed by them that identify them.
SWAT (which is a police unit), DEA, and other ABC-titled law enforcement wear masks for the same reason to avoid the retards who seek to harm or harass them or their families.
Protestors, agitators, and citizens in general cannot receive such paperwork due to the actions of idiots.

Masked members of a bureaucracy are easily identified due to paperwork, and the funny part is that in states that seek to make any enforcement unmask have the most masked citizens committing crimes while masked, and they refuse to make it illegal for those criminals who have no identifying paperwork.

Here's a little advice I learned from Sir Henry here in PG: if you don't want none dont start none.
If you want to fight law enforcement with a car or while toting a faulty gun dont get upset when those actions have reactions you may not like.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Well I ‘ll be damned..Iran says eff you to Trumps ceasefire and warnings of destruction while threatening to close Bab El Mandab..interesting twists for a country that appears to not have the upper hand.

1) Lachlan answer Mel’s question before she loses her mind.

2) NATO “undermining” is NATO not shitting where they eat. They get a substantial
Amount of oil from Iran. It’s a bad ask.

Iran does want a ceasefire; they have agreed to a 10-point ceasefire, but not Trump's 15-point ceasefire
I hope they don't agree before the deadline, and we bomb their electric plants, as it will give them something to focus on other than the terrorist activities they have pursued for decades. Hate it for their citizens, but it is what it is.

Where do you see them having the upper hand?

[Meliva]

I'll say this-they do have the upper hand in propaganda. It's shocking to me how so many sources are hyping them up, while bashing how well the US is doing-doubly so that, a lot of it is being peddled by American and other Western sources-the fact that some people, hate Trump SO much, that they are actively cheering for Iran is just shameful.

But that's about all Iran has got going for it though

[Dmanwuzhere]

I'll say this-they do have the upper hand in propaganda. It's shocking to me how so many sources are hyping them up, while bashing how well the US is doing-doubly so that, a lot of it is being peddled by American and other Western sources-the fact that some people, hate Trump SO much, that they are actively cheering for Iran is just shameful.

But that's about all Iran has got going for it though

lol have you seen Irans AI propaganda? The Lego one is hilarious, let me go find and post it lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo7e2OjyEBo

its their Christmas wishlist

[Lil Lola]

Well I ‘ll be damned..Iran says eff you to Trumps ceasefire and warnings of destruction while threatening to close Bab El Mandab..interesting twists for a country that appears to not have the upper hand.

1) Lachlan answer Mel’s question before she loses her mind.

2) NATO “undermining” is NATO not shitting where they eat. They get a substantial
Amount of oil from Iran. It’s a bad ask.

Iran does want a ceasefire; they have agreed to a 10-point ceasefire, but not Trump's 15-point ceasefire
I hope they don't agree before the deadline, and we bomb their electric plants, as it will give them something to focus on other than the terrorist activities they have pursued for decades. Hate it for their citizens, but it is what it is.

Where do you see them having the upper hand?

The upper hand is them threatening to close the other straight. You don’t do that if your backs against the wall.
Sure they don’t agree to all of his demands. That is called compromise. That is allowed. If they are indeed completely effed then they would be raising the white flag and giving him all the demands. They aren’t, so he is calling for a ceasefire too early in the game. Ceasefire after bombing the power plants and bridges. Not before. Duh.

[Lil Lola]

I'll say this-they do have the upper hand in propaganda. It's shocking to me how so many sources are hyping them up, while bashing how well the US is doing-doubly so that, a lot of it is being peddled by American and other Western sources-the fact that some people, hate Trump SO much, that they are actively cheering for Iran is just shameful.

But that's about all Iran has got going for it though

I didn’t know Al Jazeera was American Propaganda. Good to know. However it is all propaganda at this point. I am not actively cheering Iran so go eff yourself with that comment Mel. It’s called being pragmatic.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Well I ‘ll be damned..Iran says eff you to Trumps ceasefire and warnings of destruction while threatening to close Bab El Mandab..interesting twists for a country that appears to not have the upper hand.

1) Lachlan answer Mel’s question before she loses her mind.

2) NATO “undermining” is NATO not shitting where they eat. They get a substantial
Amount of oil from Iran. It’s a bad ask.

Iran does want a ceasefire; they have agreed to a 10-point ceasefire, but not Trump's 15-point ceasefire
I hope they don't agree before the deadline, and we bomb their electric plants, as it will give them something to focus on other than the terrorist activities they have pursued for decades. Hate it for their citizens, but it is what it is.

Where do you see them having the upper hand?

The upper hand is them threatening to close the other straight. You don’t do that if your backs against the wall.
Sure they don’t agree to all of his demands. That is called compromise. That is allowed. If they are indeed completely effed then they would be raising the white flag and giving him all the demands. They aren’t, so he is calling for a ceasefire too early in the game. Ceasefire after bombing the power plants and bridges. Not before. Duh.

Lol, you need to read more.
The upper hand as you call it, in this case is Iran's dictatorial, ever-changing leadership IE the terrorists in charge are banking on Trump not creating a blackout for all of Irans citizens. So the upper hand is really holding their own people as a shield. Nothing new its the MO of these types of groups.
Compromise in their favor allows for the missile program to continue and them to keep 400 kilos of 60 percent grade nuke goodies. Which only takes about 2 weeks to get to 90 percent, and then coupled with their missiles, have nukes with decent range.
And their backs are certainly against the wall. There is no scenario where they can go on the offensive and create major damage, certainly not to the USA, their protagonists.

Oh, Russia offered us the favor of holding the nuke goodies for us, how nice of Putin