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[Lachlan]

Sure that is true but I am working under the assumption that most countries will cut trade and therefore resources from the United States weakening your economy. Would that stop you? No it would not at least in the short and medium term but at least from my point of view as an outsider I don't think the American public would be like yay war with Europe and would object to the extreme financial cost of attacking your still technical allies and significant negative effects on your economy. Not to mention Russia and China would take the opportunity to strengthen their position and it would be an almost certainty that China would then invade Taiwan.
Which is why I say politically and militarily America's position in Asia at the moment is weakening because your political and military strength is focused on Iran.

Sure-that will also hurt Europe just as much if not more then it hurts the US though. See, the US, is really lucky, in the fact that, we have JUST about everything locally. We got oil. We got farmland. We got factories. I believe the only real thing we lack is rare earth metals-we have them I believe but not enough to meet demand without exports. The US is the world's BIGGEST Importer. And 2nd biggest Exporter. Which means, cutting off trade would hurt the EU or whoever does it, a LOT more then it does the US-that's why threatening to Tariff other nations is such an effective tool-yes, it hurts the US-but it hurts the other country a LOT bloody more-which pressures them to negotiate-with the US having the better position. We also have a large enough military we can beat Iran and still have forces elsewhere-and let's not forget that it's not like our allies in Asia are weak-if anything they're a lot more capable then the ones we got in Europe-probably because they're next door to China-while most of Europe has grown rather soft and lazy being so far away from any hostile nations. Russia has its hands full with Ukraine still-and China is largely a paper tiger-with plenty of neighbors who would help us put it in check if needed.

Yes that is why I am saying threatening other countries does not really help your cause or interests in the long run and when you do that it is basically a lose-lose scenario.
Some European countries did not become lax, mostly the ones close to Russia like Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, if we are including Sweden and Finland then them as well and France I believe as well because France produces a lot of it's equipment domestically. But as a whole yes Europe got lax.
As far as I am aware apart from rare earth metals you guys cannot produce enough oil to meet your domestic demand either. Same with gas I believe to a much smaller extent. You guys do not produce enough computer chips either to meet demand. All essentials for a healthy economy and military

[Lachlan]

The U.S. Army's 11th Airborne Division and the 10th Mountain Division, are among the best military forces equipped for Arctic conditions in the world. Their specialized training and focus on cold-weather operations are essential for effective performance in such achallenging environment.
I mention WW2 because that's when and where the 10th was invented.

I have a lil question for you.
Why do you think American guns dont function in extreme cold temps?

Both of the aforementioned special units would kick the Danes azzez on a bad day mid-winter.
Americans make quite a few weapons, from pistols to automatic rifles, that excel in cold environments.

Golly who would have thought that elite special forces units would be able to easily defeat regular army personnel? Except that is exactly what special forces are designed for.
Anyway I know those 2 divisions train for artic conditions.

Your question about guns I cannot answer from a firsthand perspective as I have never fired a gun in real life. Doing a quick google search it lists material expansion and contraction as metal expands and contracts in different weather conditions, ammunition performance (this one I did not know), apparently in cold weather conditions the propellant in in cold weather will apparently affect burn rate resulting in slightly less than optimal pressure and velocity, moisture accumulation (although I think this is more a long term issue from my limited knowledge of firearms) and finally the one I did know about which is improper lubrication can result in guns jamming. All that does seem correct I think.

Definitely a Google-based answer, now explain how the Danes and other sub zero inhabitants have bypassed using steel and gunpowder in their firearm manufacturing process.
You can Google a tad more to find out that to combat the barriers you mentioned, there are simple routines that decent gun owners would exhibit routinely, and our military would follow religiously.
Our military offers free training for our soldiers at 3 levels: mandatory for special forces and optional for others who are interested.
1. personal movement in sub-zero conditions. This teaches clothing techniques and heat management. ground insulation and how to navigate in snowy and icy conditions.
2 combat in sub-zero conditions, which includes cold weather survival, reconnaissance, and technology integration
3 Medical care in subzero conditions, which teaches medics to operate effectively in subzero conditions.
The last is conducted in Norway, lol, but the other two are conducted here in Alaska and Vermont, where we have comparable winters.

I taught Bushcraft in my younger years at Blackwater Forest to pilots at Eglin Air Force base, so pilots could not just survive if downed but thrive off the land in different shelters based on terrain and greenery available with a knife as a starting tool.
That was a six-week course with no base or home living in between.
I mention that to give you an idea of how dedicated our soldiers are to learn optional skills as well as their mandatory field-related skills.
While the course was designed for pilots, it was attended by Marines and Army members who just wanted another possibly useful skill under their belt.

I could have made that a career, but the road I chose to follow was way bumpier and taught a whole host of craziness to unlearn as I matured into the me now

I am not saying danish guns are somehow magical or something. I was not just talking about guns but also tanks, trucks, other assorted armoured and unarmoured vehicles, planes especially fighter jets not designed for rough runways, vehicles that can operate on ice/icy conditions, during winter having not enough icebreakers to clear a path through to greenland. I am not saying you guys don't have that stuff but that you have less of it overall than Europe has.

[Dmanwuzhere]

The UK is a conquered nation at this point.
I mean, a butcher who refused to sell Halal meat was arrested for not doing so.
Despite his workers and patrons being assaulted.
Fook the UK.

Try that in a small town.

On a positive note, the guy who carried out orders to kill 35k of Iranian citizens recently went to the devil today.
You can't cheer, as you might get arrested for hate speech.
You wear the similarities you mentioned well.

Oh-did another of their leaders get taken out? Not surprising-at this point, Trump Could make a calendar-each month have a different picture of a Iranian leader who got taken out. Also heard Netenhau or however you spell the Israeli leaders name might have been taken out, but not sure if that's just propaganda or not-haven't really looked into it-I know a lot of AI slop is being pushed showing Iranian triumphs-recall seeing one where it claimed they capture over a hundred Delta force soldiers-but they forgot to remove the Gemini logo in the corner

That rumour was based on an online picture that showed netanyahoooooo with 6 fingers so he must be dead was the conclusion by Iran lol... but I haven't even checked to see if he died as Iran isn't doing enough attacking to make me check

[Meliva]

Yes that is why I am saying threatening other countries does not really help your cause or interests in the long run and when you do that it is basically a lose-lose scenario.
Some European countries did not become lax, mostly the ones close to Russia like Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, if we are including Sweden and Finland then them as well and France I believe as well because France produces a lot of it's equipment domestically. But as a whole yes Europe got lax.
As far as I am aware apart from rare earth metals you guys cannot produce enough oil to meet your domestic demand either. Same with gas I believe to a much smaller extent. You guys do not produce enough computer chips either to meet demand. All essentials for a healthy economy and military

We have a Strategic Reserve-and you're also not counting the fact that, we likely won't be cut off from ALL trade worldwide. Hell, if we end up going against Europe, we could probably cut a deal with Russia for their oil and gas-again, alliances change-what might be an ally today could be an enemy tomorrow-and vice versa. We started off as literal Rebels against England-we were enemies-and in time we became allies-we fought Japan in WW2-we're allies now-we could decide being allied with many European countries is no longer worth it-and cut them off and forge new ones-Hell we used to be allied with Russia. To just assume because we are allies now that means we must always remain such and keep doing what is in the best interest of our allies, even at our own detriment is foolish. I firmly believe that for quite a while Europe has benefited far more from this alliance then we have-enjoying lopsided benefits often at our expense-we have a literal trade deficit with most countries-most countries have tariffs on our exports-yet they complain when we tariff them back? All while so many mock the US openly. It get's old real quick.

[Meliva]

That rumour was based on an online picture that showed netanyahoooooo with 6 fingers so he must be dead was the conclusion by Iran lol... but I haven't even checked to see if he died as Iran isn't doing enough attacking to make me check

Lol figured it was probably just AI slop and baseless propaganda. Though even if they DID manage it somehow, not like that would change things-they've lost FAR more of their leaders so even if they took him out, it's still not looking good for them.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Sure that is true but I am working under the assumption that most countries will cut trade and therefore resources from the United States weakening your economy. Would that stop you? No it would not at least in the short and medium term but at least from my point of view as an outsider I don't think the American public would be like yay war with Europe and would object to the extreme financial cost of attacking your still technical allies and significant negative effects on your economy. Not to mention Russia and China would take the opportunity to strengthen their position and it would be an almost certainty that China would then invade Taiwan.
Which is why I say politically and militarily America's position in Asia at the moment is weakening because your political and military strength is focused on Iran.

Sure-that will also hurt Europe just as much if not more then it hurts the US though. See, the US, is really lucky, in the fact that, we have JUST about everything locally. We got oil. We got farmland. We got factories. I believe the only real thing we lack is rare earth metals-we have them I believe but not enough to meet demand without exports. The US is the world's BIGGEST Importer. And 2nd biggest Exporter. Which means, cutting off trade would hurt the EU or whoever does it, a LOT more then it does the US-that's why threatening to Tariff other nations is such an effective tool-yes, it hurts the US-but it hurts the other country a LOT bloody more-which pressures them to negotiate-with the US having the better position. We also have a large enough military we can beat Iran and still have forces elsewhere-and let's not forget that it's not like our allies in Asia are weak-if anything they're a lot more capable then the ones we got in Europe-probably because they're next door to China-while most of Europe has grown rather soft and lazy being so far away from any hostile nations. Russia has its hands full with Ukraine still-and China is largely a paper tiger-with plenty of neighbors who would help us put it in check if needed.

Yes that is why I am saying threatening other countries does not really help your cause or interests in the long run and when you do that it is basically a lose-lose scenario.
Some European countries did not become lax, mostly the ones close to Russia like Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, if we are including Sweden and Finland then them as well and France I believe as well because France produces a lot of it's equipment domestically. But as a whole yes Europe got lax.
As far as I am aware apart from rare earth metals you guys cannot produce enough oil to meet your domestic demand either. Same with gas I believe to a much smaller extent. You guys do not produce enough computer chips either to meet demand. All essentials for a healthy economy and military

You are aware that TSMC now operates in the US as well as Taiwan, right?
Other Taiwan chip makers are following.
The newest chip is still being made in Taiwan, and Im sure as new arrives it will remain that way, as it keeps the US interested in Taiwan's defense.
However in a worst case scenario we now have a lifeboat in the chip industry.
As for oil, we produce 13.4 million barrels per day. Refinery demand is at 16.5 million barrels per day.
While there is a negative balance there in the scenario you mention, it would be easy to motor down the demand with a need-only approach by lopping of any deemed unnecessary for survival.
We could also begin drilling more sites as an option. Government regulations slow production of drilling sites, and regulations can be changed on a whim. It is entirely feasible to not only match our demand but also surpass it if needed.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Approved and available drill sites 6,653
You do the math
We have 5,366 drill sites pending approval
We can almost double our production with a wave of the hand by making red tape disappear.

[Dmanwuzhere]

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