WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

[sXs]

The only reason for not signing a treaty is the fact that it limits the ability to conduct ship piracy. As you have said, conducting war with coin and voodoo is not a fun way to go. Many of us enjoy a good sea battle or two, hence the unwillingness of the UK to sign a treaty that would generate hostility from our nation. We do desire to have a peaceful relationship with TK just outside of the terms dictated by the "peace treaty" function of the game.

As I explained in the email when the treaty with TK was voted down. The mechanics of the peace treaty hold no weight what-so-ever. Hostility be the only penalty and that can be simply counter-acted with Hired Diplomats. We sign no treaties now. Yes we have a treaty with IoM, but if Will, Noffin dman... even shadow were to leave VUDU yet stay IoM.... would cancel the treaty. Pirates and Privateers need to eat as well.

I agree 100% that port wars need to be changed to actually have a battle component to them. It is the only game action that is 100% voodoo based. And it isn't who has the most cards that wins, it be who can muster the most turns. Cards be easy to come by.

[Sir Henry Morgan]

I agree 100% that port wars need to be changed to actually have a battle component to them. It is the only game action that is 100% voodoo based.

ABSOLUTELY! Spot on, mate!

[Shadowood]

To me faithful adversary, Shadowood

The fact be Baramas - and all ports - be open ports. Truth is ye don't own a port, ye control it - can't be bought or sold. You are "permitted" to control it by others who don't want it and don't mind ye havin' it.

We be at an impass that now be decided by who has the most influence at the end of the day, which may be neither Tokelau nor the Isle of Man.

Sad part be it be fought with gold coin and voodoo rather than ships, but I digress...

As for peaceful nation, that be an ideal - doesn't mean passive. We strive to defend and maintain our interests just as any other port nation would do, even at the risk of losing it all.

Thank you for your response. Not the response I anticipated and respect you playing this hand close to the chest. You have your reasons, I assume to protect some unnamed parties.

No matter.

You are right, Ports are fair game and it is sad that Ships don't play a roll in a part of Capturing them or Defending them. GOD I WISH THIS WAS SO!! Because I know then I would have equal footing. As of now, seeing how you defleeted yourself (even before things went south) I won't have a chance to get a prize for my wall. Fair winds good sir.

Please reach out to me if/should you want to end hostilities. Until then, Fair Winds

[William one eye]

To me faithful adversary, Shadowood, and all of his friends;

I have corresponded with folks in Kirbati, Isle of Man and Tokelau concerning port control of Baramas. I step back and look at the big picture and thru me bloodshot eyes and hung over brain came conclusion:

1) Kirbati was abandoning Baramas.
2) Isle of Man had varied reasons - right, wrong, indifferent - to stake a claim to Baramas,
3) Tokelau had an even wider range of reasons - right, wrong, indifferent - why they didn't and should prevent it, thus claim it for herself.
4) The King of Kirbati left to join Isle of Man, the Governor for Kirbati in Baramas left to join Tokelau.
5) As a side note, Isle if Man and the UK were the only two nations to decline to sign peace treaties with "the neutral, peaceful banking nation of Tokelau. Not that it matters, as it doesn't - they only signed treaties with each other, for whatever the true value of of those treaties be other than politicking. Teuth is, they did not wish to indicate they desired peaceful relationships with Tokelau.

Bottom line: both nations have tried to sell the other on merits as to why their positions be right. Arguing, name calling and saber rattling didn't settle the issue.

The fact be Baramas - and all ports - be open ports. Truth is ye don't own a port, ye control it - can't be bought or sold. You are "permitted" to control it by others who don't want it and don't mind ye havin' it.

We be at an impass that now be decided by who has the most influence at the end of the day, which may be niether Tokelau nor the Isle of Man.

Sad part be it be fought with gold coin and voodoo rather than ships, but I digress...

As for peaceful nation, that be an ideal - doesn't mean passive. We strive to defend and maintain our interests just as any other port nation would do, even at the risk of losing it all.

Me hangover be gettin' the better of me - best go find a dram to cure this sobriety.

Astute observation, not much of a solution -

I suggested we give it anyone but those fighting for it.

If that were to happen I don't care who makes that call and long as it has some logical fairness to it. I suggested Astra and Eldraque, El Draque differed to you.

[PhoenixKnight]

Out of curiosity, how much is Tokelau looking to make off Baramas before letting it go?

[William one eye]

I agree 100% that port wars need to be changed to actually have a battle component to them. It is the only game action that is 100% voodoo based.

ABSOLUTELY! Spot on, mate!

Also agree with this, Naval Combat can play a part, but mostly as a distraction, or to weaken cash flow.
It should play a much bigger part, this is a seafaring game after all. Instead most people just go skinny anyway.

Ports war should be more than just ranking up and placing influence.

blockades, naval gunfights, ports should be able to build naval defenses, foot war of ship delivered troops ( one day, maybe )

Certainly wish their was more to it than who is willing to toss the most cards or money.

[Admiral Nelson]

As I said earlier, The Nelsons Trust accepts donations for Admiral Nelson.

We would even accept a port.

[Grimrock Litless]

I agree 100% that port wars need to be changed to actually have a battle component to them. It is the only game action that is 100% voodoo based.

ABSOLUTELY! Spot on, mate!

Also agree with this, Naval Combat can play a part, but mostly as a distraction, or to weaken cash flow.
It should play a much bigger part, this is a seafaring game after all. Instead most people just go skinny anyway.

Ports war should be more than just ranking up and placing influence.

blockades, naval gunfights, ports should be able to build naval defenses, foot war of ship delivered troops ( one day, maybe )

Certainly wish their was more to it than who is willing to toss the most cards or money.

IIRC, I think I made a suggestion to add army battles on ports before, I don't remember.

[Dmanwuzhere]

As I said earlier, The Nelsons Trust accepts donations for Admiral Nelson.

We would even accept a port.

Call now to donate while the telethon is live 1 605 475 6959
if that line is busy call 1 605 475 6962

These lines will accept all cash and deliver 99.9 percent to me and .1 to Nelsons Trusts.

[sXs]