Dez:
No, I can't prove they are Nazis, but you have to assume that if they are using that symbol in this day and age that they are. For instance, the Indian swastika that you mentioned doesn't really look the same as the Nazi one.
Indian:
Nazi:
And really most of the time when I've seen a swastika used it was the second one.
"Until they threaten or do actual harm to you, you have no right to act out on them"
Yes. But what is a Nazi's values? By wearing that symbol or by supporting the Nazis you support the killing of Jewish people. And that is a threat to me. Therefor I legally (yes, legally) have the right to take whatever means necessary to defend myself and to prevent harm.
And as an organization, I don't know much about BLM. For most people it's become something that you say to show that you support the cause. That doesn't mean that you support everything that BLM says or does.
My religious views? I'm an atheist. This confuses a lot of people who don't understand that you can be Jewish religiously and ethnically. I am ethnically Jewish but not religiously. That goes for many Jews. So if the Torah says points against homosexuality, then i really don't care. Don't even try me with this one, because who do you think would win: some random gentile pleb on a PG Trump forum or an actual Jew?
You are incorrect to say science says there are only two genders.
You are mixing up genders and sex. And science actually says that there are three sexes. Male, female, and intersex. But that is different than gender. There are a lot of analogies to describe gender but I think the best one goes like this: Genders are no different from nicknames. You can have none, one or multiple. And it isn't very nice and makes you look like an ass if you purposely use the wrong one. I don't know why this has become an issue. Why can't you just call people what they want to be called? Trust me, it's not that hard to be courteous.
The Birther movement is nothing but a failed attempt at a conspiracy theory made by our own president. It has been disproven many times with photographically and documentation evidence. And honestly the whole thing is a little racist. What makes Obama less likely to have been born here than Trump?
My parents failed at raising me? No need to get aggressive. BTW I was a straight A student in school. And think what you look like to me. You deny climate change even though about 97% of the climate scientists would disagree. Dez, I feel like if I read even just one more of your posts in this thread I'm going to vomit.
Mel, you are probably the person I disagree with who makes the most sense here. I'm glad that you use logic and reason unlike some people. At this point it's just difference of opinion, and neither of us is going to be able to change that. I don't think that saying "I'm not saying X, but..." is necessarily a bad thing? The following "but..." doesn't need to contradict the first thing you said. And the example you gave? Mel, that's much, much more offensive than anything I would say, and even you know that.
Argo
I like your way of thinking. I don't think that BLM's intentions really match up with their name. What I mean is that yes, "all lives matter" but the issue wasn't that everyone was being killed by the police. If I could fix their name I would change it to "Black lives matter too" because it suggests that everyone's life matters but still keeps the emphasis on the problem. and by the way, ALL LIVES MATTER is a pretty racist organization, so be careful how you use that phrase.
