The Pirate Kings Civil War, ZomB v PK v PK

[Rolando]

I would prefer we deal privately, but I see no reason not to resume the deal so long as we are assured that further breaches shall not illicit complaint, but a grim understanding of what the consequences are, for both of us. I shall ask the rest of the Council if this is acceptable.

Additionally, Doom Iris, your man Luffy has been hitting our traders, so perhaps no voodoo against you, but no attacks are off the table.

[Roileon]

I don't see why having PK show it's diplomacy in public should be a problem. You are the honorable PK, what reason shouldn't they be public? And actually, I offered to pay the debt appropriately with the taken sotls but the rest should be returned.

Back to this statement, "to cripple those attacking us" I've recently looked at the battle reports, and not a single retaliation was done against the one actually attacking you, so what this really is, is a lame excuse to attack me, a person who reports clearly show, was not a part of the attack or action, but can claim victim status due to the unjust retaliation against wrong party. So even then, I can only see it fair that as a guild leader, I can pay the "debt" with a sol that equals the equivalent and possibly more depending on their levels, but the rest be returned, seeing it must be misunderstanding and mis-communication.

[Rolando]

Roi you of all people chiding on why all business must be public is hilarious , how about this. Diplomacy is not always done in public because feelings may get out of control and others may use this information for their benefit. So I will not debate about how I decide to conduct diplomacy, and unlike you I shall not instruct you how to conduct yours. Believe what you wish, I do not have to defend my actions to you or anyone else. Perhaps if you accept the fault lies with your man and not our vengeance for his actions, you might reconsider.

A miscommunication is a voodoo spell miscast, or perhaps a mistake could be suggested if this was the first, second, or even third time, but its not. There is no need to count anymore, the number is too great. So if one of your new members had cast a few spells on ONE of us, its a mistake. Easily fixed. Yet when someone casts repeated voodoo on two members, both traders. Was a slip of the tongue? Did you say "Juicy do not attack PK", and he heard "Cast at two of them with hostile natives". That is what I like to call a raid, a raid that breached the agreement multiple times. You and nearly all of Fox kept your word Roi, as we did, its not an excuse, your the leader, if you cannot keep Juicy from casting voodoo at us, why should we not respond by counter attacking multiple targets. Again I suggest you tabulate your bill and send it to Juicy, the guilty party.

[Roileon]

I got online after Juicy had already done the raid and after PK retaliated. When juicy told me he was doing the raid, it was too late. So, how do I stop someone from doing something when I'm offline? The rules. Juicy broke the rules of the Nap and the guild. Now, I offered to pay for his mistake as a guild leader, what's wrong with this?

[Rolando]

Since I am among our guild leaders as well I accept with a title comes a target. When some of our overly eager members have breached the peace I have paid for it, sometimes in hostilities I have paid greatly in damages from incoming voodoo to actual coin to soothe the wound my fellows created. The whole reason to be in a guild is protection, but when someone within disrupts our agreements enough, we boot them, usually I boot them. He's in your guild so you must accept responsibility for his actions. You offered to pay, no need, you already have. The question is will Juicy? That is entirely your decision.

[Roileon]

I think your counter-raid should have decided that, because without actually attacking the person who did make an offence, you actually haven't achieved the goal of protection.

[Rolando]

So now you cast at me Roi and think that will improve the situation? Very Well. As you wish.

[Roileon]

That reminds me of this forum:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=320

[Grogggy]

What gets me is the Pk PR, "oh were not ZomB." Sure we raid everything in sight, were pirates. We rarely run anyone trully into the ground.

And while PK might SAY they have truces with this that and the other, whose there waiting after our raids to steal a portion of your fame and gold back? PK, and I'm sure they don't return either.

They are tax collectors sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill....

[Roileon]

Yes but they do it so well that it makes them tons of money. It's the only way to raid someone and still have a Nap with them or still be allies. I'm jealous that I didn't think of it