Republic of Pirates

[Blue buddah]

This is a great idea. Something I look forward to, even though I'm a new pirate. But the idea of "Marooned" and "paying tribute", while I get where you're coming from - A pirate nation will need funding - but you'd understand if i'm not willing to pay taxes for being a pirate?

In hard times a pirate may select to not pay tribute, Law can be set to maroon the pirate...

Law? Pirate law? Isn't the whole reason I'm a pirate, so I don't have to listen to any law? Unless of course, it's a code like from PoTC, and even then, it's more of guidelines than actual law? Sure, you don't pay a tax, you'll be looked down upon, frowned upon, but I don't see the sense in deranking and marooning anyone, as a pirate.

Just my two cents tho

Rouge Pirate - a player who is flying the black but has not yet begun to rank or does not wish to rank.
A rouge pirate has the same benefits and restrictions as a pirate in the current system, no more, no less.
Want to sail the seas with your independence and report only to yourself. There be no need to join up with other pirates.
A Rouge pirate will not be affected in anyway by the rules, codes, tributes, ect created by coalitions if any exist.

If you join a coalition you follow the rules set by that coalition.
Don't like their rules don't join. Start your own coalition or find an existing one that has no rules or has rules set that are similar to your wishes Or just play as a rouge pirate.

Do not attempt to soil the Jolly Roger with this stupid Idea of a Republic. If you want to be part of a nation or be a king or any of that than join a nation or form one.

A pirate is a rogue or not a pirate!!!!

BOLLOCKS!!

In regards to A Pirate Republic I will quote the Sex Pistols,

"I am an anti-Christ
I am an anarchist
Don't know what I want
But I know how to get it
I want to destroy the passerby
'Cause I want to be anarchy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbmWs6Jf5dc

[William one eye]

Do not attempt to soil the Jolly Roger with this stupid Idea of a Republic. If you want to be part of a nation or be a king or any of that than join a nation or form one.

The jolly rodger is credited to Jack Rackham, who was a member of the flying gang, and a member of the actual republic of pirates at new providence island.

As for anarchy, libertatia was a colony of pirates and feed men formed by James misson and Henry Every, it shunned formal governments and organized religion as control of the masses.
They freed misstreated sailors and slaves, as well as plundering substantial amounts of cargo.

Henery morgan and the brethern of the coast had a strict pirate code they followed. They were and organization that followed the rules they created. Most carried letters of marquess and the ran their operations out of port royal.


The Pirate code of one of the most prolific pirates in history.
I do not belive Roberts was part of any coalition.
However this is a good example of pirate code so im parking it here.

As recorded by Captain Charles Johnson regarding the articles of Bartholomew Roberts.

I. Every man has a vote in affairs of moment; has equal title to the fresh provisions, or strong liquors, at any time seized, and may use them at pleasure, unless a scarcity makes it necessary, for the good of all, to vote a retrenchment.

II. Every man to be called fairly in turn, by list, on board of prizes because, (over and above their proper share,) they were on these occasions allowed a shift of clothes: but if they defrauded the company to the value of a dollar in plate, jewels, or money, marooning was their punishment. If the robbery was only betwixt one another, they contented themselves with slitting the ears and nose of him that was guilty, and set him on shore, not in an uninhabited place, but somewhere, where he was sure to encounter hardships.

III. No person to game at cards or dice for money.

IV. The lights and candles to be put out at eight o'clock at night: if any of the crew, after that hour still remained inclined for drinking, they were to do it on the open deck;

V. To keep their piece, pistols, and cutlass clean and fit for service.

VI. No boy or woman to be allowed amongst them. If any man were to be found seducing any of the latter sex, and carried her to sea, disguised, he was to suffer death;

VII. To desert the ship or their quarters in battle, was punished with death or marooning.

VIII. No striking one another on board, but every man's quarrels to be ended on shore, at sword and pistol.

IX. No man to talk of breaking up their way of living, till each had shared one thousand pounds. If in order to this, any man should lose a limb, or become a cripple in their service, he was to have eight hundred dollars, out of the public stock, and for lesser hurts, proportionately.

X. The Captain and Quartermaster to receive two shares of a prize: the master, boatswain, and gunner, one share and a half, and other officers one and quarter.

XI. The musicians to have rest on the Sabbath Day, but the other six days and nights, none without special favour.

[Dauner light]

Laws? Rules? Tributes? What's this i'm reading about? Pirates don't answer to anybody. That's common knowledge. They don't abide by the rules and don't answer to no one. A pirate nation would undermine the very notion of being a pirate

[Meliva]

Laws? Rules? Tributes? What's this i'm reading about? Pirates don't answer to anybody. That's common knowledge. They don't abide by the rules and don't answer to no one. A pirate nation would undermine the very notion of being a pirate

It seems a lot of people who like to claim pirates were rule less rogues who did whatever whenever doesn't really know much about pirates. For starters, when it comes to pirates there has been a very large amount of different kinds from different places over the years. Many who had different ways of piracy, and with it different tactics, beliefs and yes even rules. And pirates do answer to somebody-other pirates. You think a pirate gunner would be able to just tell his captain, "don't feel like gunning today, think i'd rather steer the ship". He'd get his arse cut to ribbons, marooned, or the very least a beating.

Sure there's probably been some pirates who had a free for all attitude with little to no rules. But there have been some who had rules, and structure. Like William literally just posted.

[William one eye]

Laws? Rules? Tributes? What's this i'm reading about? Pirates don't answer to anybody. That's common knowledge. They don't abide by the rules and don't answer to no one. A pirate nation would undermine the very notion of being a pirate

The Flying Gang were an 18th-century group of pirates who established themselves in Nassau, New Providence in The Bahamas after the destruction of Port Royal in Jamaica. They achieved great fame and wealth by raiding salvagers attempting to recover gold from the sunken Spanish treasure fleet. They established their own codes and governed themselves independent from any of the colonial powers of the time. Nassau was deemed the Republic of Pirates as it attracted many former Privateers looking for work to its shores. The Governor of Bermuda stated that there were over 1000 pirates in Nassau at that time and that they outnumbered the mere hundred of inhabitants in the town

some of the more famous members of this group

Edward Teach
Charles Vane
Henry Jennings
Jack Rackham
Stede Bonnet
Mary Read
Benjamin Hornigold

Apperently these guy did not agree with you

And once again, dont like it, you need not apply,
You be free to sail the black all day long independantly and this would not affect you one bit.

[Dmanwuzhere]

This is a great idea. Something I look forward to, even though I'm a new pirate. But the idea of "Marooned" and "paying tribute", while I get where you're coming from - A pirate nation will need funding - but you'd understand if i'm not willing to pay taxes for being a pirate?

In hard times a pirate may select to not pay tribute, Law can be set to maroon the pirate...

Law? Pirate law? Isn't the whole reason I'm a pirate, so I don't have to listen to any law? Unless of course, it's a code like from PoTC, and even then, it's more of guidelines than actual law? Sure, you don't pay a tax, you'll be looked down upon, frowned upon, but I don't see the sense in deranking and marooning anyone, as a pirate.

Just my two cents tho

Rouge Pirate - a player who is flying the black but has not yet begun to rank or does not wish to rank.
A rouge pirate has the same benefits and restrictions as a pirate in the current system, no more, no less.
Want to sail the seas with your independence and report only to yourself. There be no need to join up with other pirates.
A Rouge pirate will not be affected in anyway by the rules, codes, tributes, ect created by coalitions if any exist.

If you join a coalition you follow the rules set by that coalition.
Don't like their rules don't join. Start your own coalition or find an existing one that has no rules or has rules set that are similar to your wishes Or just play as a rouge pirate.

Do not attempt to soil the Jolly Roger with this stupid Idea of a Republic. If you want to be part of a nation or be a king or any of that than join a nation or form one.

A pirate is a rogue or not a pirate!!!!

BOLLOCKS!!

In regards to A Pirate Republic I will quote the Sex Pistols,

"I am an anti-Christ
I am an anarchist
Don't know what I want
But I know how to get it
I want to destroy the passerby
'Cause I want to be anarchy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbmWs6Jf5dc

i dont recall the sex pistols sailing any pirate ships and lyrics of today mean little in this discussion
or

those who say every pirate abides no rules
are just jaw jackers and fools
if you cant stand to take an order
steer your ships from a stronger pirates borders
but if you want to create a real shake up
dont quote softies in make up
dmanwashere

[Most Lee Harmless]

Sex Pistols as pirates?

Google 'Friggin in the riggin'

[Slovich]

-1 Not all pirates were part of these pirate nations and some did their own things without the need for paying to a king of pirates. I believe this would take away that thought. But if there is going to be away to still fly the jolly roger without having to be part of a nation then I would change my vote.

[William one eye]

-1 Not all pirates were part of these pirate nations and some did their own things without the need for paying to a king of pirates. I believe this would take away that thought. But if there is going to be away to still fly the jolly roger without having to be part of a nation then I would change my vote.

When you turn pirate by leaving or getting kicked from a nation, you would be a pirate exactly the same as in the current system.

In this suggestion i called it a rouge pirate, it could just simlpy still be called pirate. In this state the pirate functions exactly the same as it currently does and they would not be affected in any way by the codes of any of the coallitions. You would be flying the jolly rodger.

Likewise if the pirate coalitions existed and you got kicked out, you would revert to a standard pirate status.


Joining a coallition is elective, and tributes or profit sharing would be based upon the code a specific coalition voted in.
A coallition could choose to not do it at all.


For reference the new version posted a few pages back has now been copied to the first post of the thread.

[Dauner light]

Laws? Rules? Tributes? What's this i'm reading about? Pirates don't answer to anybody. That's common knowledge. They don't abide by the rules and don't answer to no one. A pirate nation would undermine the very notion of being a pirate

It seems a lot of people who like to claim pirates were rule less rogues who did whatever whenever doesn't really know much about pirates. For starters, when it comes to pirates there has been a very large amount of different kinds from different places over the years. Many who had different ways of piracy, and with it different tactics, beliefs and yes even rules. And pirates do answer to somebody-other pirates. You think a pirate gunner would be able to just tell his captain, "don't feel like gunning today, think i'd rather steer the ship". He'd get his arse cut to ribbons, marooned, or the very least a beating.

Sure there's probably been some pirates who had a free for all attitude with little to no rules. But there have been some who had rules, and structure. Like William literally just posted.

I know more about pirates than you think and that statement was just depicting my kind of ideal pirate. I do know that pirates originated from privateers who pillaged and plundered in the name of a nation's king or queen. And the gunner example, that's not really a god example if you want to prove that pirates follow the rules(national and international rules). It's normal for every pirate on a ship to respect and follow their captains orders. That's a basic necessity for any crew to remain united.
Basically, what i meant is this, pirates don't need to follow any rules set by any nation even if it is a pirate nation. compulsory payment of 'tribute' to the nation? That's just taxes with the words sugar-coated. Being a pirate, Why send your money to someone else when you can just sit on it? If pirates need to follow rules, it'll just be the basic rules of survival as a pirate and not the internationally accepted moral standard rules. That's what i meant by 'Rules?'