WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

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Re: WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

Postby sXs » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:56 pm

Black sparrow wrote:Since I was coordinating everything from nearly at the start of all of this, I do know the timeline from my side. And I know that our reasoning changed multiple times as we never knew the full story since the start.

When I simply added 14M influence there, I just wanted to boost my influence a bit, across Avonmora. There was no second thought, I did it right away. I even added an extra 14M at Vaasburg by mistake. Then, I also asked SHM to do the same, he is a King, he needs to diversify his influence. So with this move, we had 2 objectives fulfilled:
1)We signaled that TK will defend Kiribati.
2)We did this at no real overhead, as this influence had its uses for us for TK defense.

But this was before we learn that there was a deal between IoM and Astragek. Hearing the details of the deal, we were shocked. When we realized that Kiribati disbands and the whole story behind it, I personally was enraged.

Should TK have not interfered at all, IoM would had an extra port at no cost. A present from Astragek in the expense of a nation larger than IoM. This is not what we all silently accepted for when Baramas was given to Grenada. This is not what we all silently accepted when Baramas was inherited by Kiribati.

So at that case, I guess Feniks, you would be fine, right? If IoM had the port now and nothing has ever happened, you would not post here questioning them, or would you?


I had my conversations with Will, I had my conversations with Astra and I tried to have a conversation with El Draque( he did not answer my inquiry). I know about the merger and plans long in advance. and I signed off on it as did Vane who also had interests in Kiribati, Will covered all the bases beforehand and did it diplomatically. He kept me in the loop from the start.

Hell, I even confronted him once about concerns on a matter and he addresses them immediately.

So to answer your question.... if IoM controlled the port I would have no reason to comment because of the consideration William One Eye showed in advance. A lot is said in forums about things like respect, diplomacy and consideration. Like all things in Avonmora, everyone has different opinions on the subject, but in this case and as far as I and UK are concerned, Will acted honorably and took the history of the port into consideration.

I am usually not one to complain about port action. I have been on both ends of that situation. UK has been hostile and diplomatic about ports. We have taken them and we have gifted them. In this case though, Will went above and beyond what I would have done.

So be it war, or be it peace be on TK's plate right now I guess. I just know respect has been lost. But at the end of the day you can't fill your coffers with respect.

You only need to hold that port for another plus days at max population to break even now.
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Re: WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

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Postby sXs » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:02 pm

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Sorry... haven't been real active since Friday

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Re: WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

Postby Poppy » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:03 pm

Once again Feniks, you kept sending TK messages that you are nutral to the matter. now you are threatening with war should we wont give up? Lost of respect? you have any to your own words? pfff
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Re: WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

Postby Shadowood » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:03 pm

TROLL!!! THERE IS A TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!
I don't fear death. I look forward to it with great anticipation. For then I will met God face to face and let him know that I stole his Man of War!!!
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Re: WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

Postby DezNutz » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:07 pm

Feniks wrote:
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Sorry... haven't been real active since Friday

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I didn't intend to post that at you, I was mid posting when you posted your comment and didn't feel like scrolling down and clicking to quote shadowood.

But since you found it funny, I'm happy.
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Shadowood wrote:TROLL!!! THERE IS A TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!



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Re: WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

Postby sXs » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:21 pm

Poppy wrote:Once again Feniks, you kept sending TK messages that you are nutral to the matter. now you are threatening with war should we wont give up? Lost of respect? you have any to your own words? pfff


I didn't threaten anyone. What is going on is between IoM and TK. I was commenting on the false reasoning. I was called out by Sparrow for comment so I did. As far as this comment

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Should TK have not interfered at all, IoM would had an extra port at no cost. A present from Astragek in the expense of a nation larger than IoM. This is not what we all silently accepted for when Baramas was given to Grenada. This is not what we all silently accepted when Baramas was inherited by Kiribati.



The whole story? I don't remember you getting Astra's side of the story or the UK's side beforehand. So no, you only had half of the story.


You and I have had our go-rounds in terms of respect. You seem to demand it before you give any yourself. Because of that i tend to simply ignore you, but since you brought up my name I decided to comment.
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Postby ChaIbaud » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:30 pm

The leftist indoctrination of young children to believe that gender exists on a subjective spectrum entirely arbitrated by individuals is self-destructive and borderline child abuse. TK sucks as well.
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Re: WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

Postby sXs » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:34 pm

Cal Smith wrote:The leftist indoctrination of young children to believe that gender exists on a subjective spectrum entirely arbitrated by individuals is self-destructive and borderline child abuse. TK sucks as well.


Well the commentary has definitely risen to new levels.

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