Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:08 pm

Oh I would say honesty is more apt to come from here, I have never had any one claim I was dishonest.
I say and do what I feel and have no problem saying why and don't give a crap what you think of my honesty.
Anyway why am I even talking to you, its not like I ever respected you.
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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby Sir Henry Morgan » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:56 pm

Feniks wrote:
Answer the simple question. How can it be a nation action when the nation gains nothing? Gold, ships .... everything goes to only the citizens that decide to join in. Nation coffers have gained nothing.


Fair enough.

Nations are made up of her citizens. The government is to serve those citizens.

In this case, action to address the issues with Big Tea are limited as a government. The government cannot impound ships or seize property. We cannot capture, imprison or hang anyone as a government. The government cannot even issue bounties nor forgive tax debt.

The government nor her citizens gain from deporting Big Tea. Some citizens want his citizenship maintained for the charter bank bonus.

By giving citizens the power to excersise the only justice available to them, as King, I can declare him an Enemy of the Crown. By sanctioning it as a national campaign, citizens have the right to attain a wee bit of swag and some satisfaction by plundering his fleets.

Is it a perfect solution? Nope. But it took care of the citizens' needs.

Now, as for peaceful banker, I general am pretty easy going, but I'm not dead! As for Tokelau, she is a neutral nation - her ports came from citizens coming over to Tokelau, not through conquest. We citizens maintain and defend them.

Finally, Big Tea made a shrewd play as becoming a citizen of Tokelau and a member of VUDU. Tokelau was a stable wealthy nation, and VUDU was a place he knew his enterprise would be defended.

He's abandoned both.

The way I understand it, you have stated we have the right to regain his wealth - maybe, maybe not. What we have gained as a nation is the knowledge we can united and work together effectively in naval operations, and have stated to the subjects, while it be far from perfect, the government of Tokelau will do its best to issue justice - while the coffers of the Tokelau treasury may not benefit, the sense of patriotism will greatly benefit.
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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby Lefty » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:58 pm

Dmanwuzhere wrote:Oh I would say honesty is more apt to come from here, I have never had any one claim I was dishonest.
I say and do what I feel and have no problem saying why and don't give a crap what you think of my honesty.
Anyway why am I even talking to you, its not like I ever respected you.
My comments were aimed at those who I wanted to address and any further comment from you will
be treated with the same attitude, Have a nice day sorry I wasnt a dbag and you are still unclean. :beer

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa is all I hear from your trash chute. You cant have your way and you cry, cry a river of sad little crocodile tears about someone else's behavior. Pathetic . Is that why your guild leader doesnt post. Even he wants nothing to do with you. In fact he stopped playing when you joined VUDU. Coincidence, I think not.
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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:47 pm

Lol, Tom I do not envy your crave for attention nor do I envy your special way of taking things. :)

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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby Meliva » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:41 pm

actually Feniks the coffers of Tokelau would benefit from their action depending on what they do with his ships and loot they gain.

If they use the ships they plundered for trading, especially in their own ports that gives them a bit of tax income, while if bigtea kept the ships they would just idle and not benefit anyone. Or they could scrap the ships for gold or credits, then use that to invest into the nation. So I greatly disagree that this wasn't to benefit their nation, as there are ways this raid can benefit it.
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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby sXs » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:52 pm

Meliva wrote:actually Feniks the coffers of Tokelau would benefit from their action depending on what they do with his ships and loot they gain.

If they use the ships they plundered for trading, especially in their own ports that gives them a bit of tax income, while if bigtea kept the ships they would just idle and not benefit anyone. Or they could scrap the ships for gold or credits, then use that to invest into the nation. So I greatly disagree that this wasn't to benefit their nation, as there are ways this raid can benefit it.


Sorry.... doesn't wash with the explanation given.
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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby Vane » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:21 am

What respect this pirate had once held for VUDU is now but limited to few within.... i see nothing here but whining and constant attempts to garner reason or viability from others in an attempt to take up arms against tokelau as a nation. Sad and pathetic.. bigtea went inactive... get the f*** over it you babies. With the exception of 3 i may be inclined to support them just for your ignorance.
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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:46 am

:wheel :D :D :D
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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby Lachlan » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:24 am

Dmanwuzhere wrote:Lol, Tom I do not envy your crave for attention nor do I envy your special way of taking things. :)

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what the hell is that? That looks kind of weird
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Re: Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

Postby Meliva » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:38 am

Lachlan wrote:
Dmanwuzhere wrote:Lol, Tom I do not envy your crave for attention nor do I envy your special way of taking things. :)

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what the hell is that? That looks kind of weird


I think it's an orangutan or some other ape type animal sitting on a wooden branch, but the photo is taken at an odd angle that makes it look inappropriate.
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