US Next War

[Bmw]

Sure. We have a few minor moderate Sunnis fighting against radical Sunnis and Shia. But they don't have the civilian backing.


As well. regardless if its gas bayonet or bullet. All are there to kill. Just because one uses another method than another should not mean we switch the importance. Casualties and rate is how I look at it.

we don't go after casualty rate we go after the more humanitarian stuff using any type of poisonous gas against a population means that they die a slow and painful death.

[Donald Trump]

There can been plenty times we have and still are allowing countries to violate rules. We have still not indited Al-Bashir for war crimes. I think this is our 3rd time not saying something is a genocide in order to avoid Lempkin's Law.

You look at what he has done now and immediate fixes. But what about the bigger picture. Where will the future of Syrian be? To just do a quick fixer upper and leave will not do. Is our goal to really rebuild an entire country? I doubt so.

[sXs]

Sure. We have a few minor moderate Sunnis fighting against radical Sunnis and Shia. But they don't have the civilian backing.


As well. regardless if its gas bayonet or bullet. All are there to kill. Just because one uses another method than another should not mean we switch the importance. Casualties and rate is how I look at it.

You miss my point. It doesn't matter which group is in control. If you cant come together as a whole, the fights will just be between different groups. Replace Sunni with Shiite, Shiite with Sunni, Yazidi Salafist....... all makes no difference if can't come together.

One group takes control and imposes their version of justice and just continues the in fighting with other groups and sects.

Read the Republic: Plato. The debate about the just man/cause goes back long before there were Sunni Shiite or any other group.

[Bmw]

what order would you kill these two in if you could only kill one at a time before having to travel 1/2 way around the world to kill the other.

the guy that tortures all of the people that he comes across before killing them.

the guy that kills his opponents quick and painlessly.

for me it would be the above order.

[Donald Trump]

The matter at hand is far more complex then coming in and cleansing who we deem troubling.

[Bmw]

The matter at hand is far more complex then coming in and cleansing who we deem troubling.

most of the suffering in south Sudan that you are talking about is coming from a civil war although syria's civil war is a civil war it contains plenty more suffering plus the syrian civil war broke out and Assad uses chemical weapons against his own people yeah that guy deserves to die.

[DezNutz]

Stop over reacting and watching the idiots on the "news". It was a few cruise missile strikes in an existing conflict, it isn't the next US War.

[sXs]

Really? Are you saying the fighting between sects will end if Assad is removed?

Yes Assad needs to be brought up on charges of at minimum human rights violations up to war crimes. But How will it guarantee peace in the nation?

After all, shouldn't the ultimate goal be a day when all can walk down the street without worrying about their children being attacked because of the beliefs of their parents? That will never happen unless there is a shift in thinking no matter who is governing.

[Donald Trump]

The civil war in Sudan as originally because the Dinka had a president, and a Nuer had a vice-president. And as a well a century old fight about who stole whos cattle.

Nevertheless, the Nuer said they would like their representative to be president. Dinka said no. So they had a civil war. And now the Dinka completely dominate South Sudan and politics within. Except they are just now continuously killing Nuers.

The Sunni vs Shia is a century old debate about who takes over as a leader for Muslims after the death of Mohammad; family or someone is more qualified. It has left a massive amount of diversity within the Muslim community.

Just like the Rwandan Genocide. You can't just say "Hutus think Tutsi killed their president" as the reason without stating that there has been a century old divide between cattle herders and farmers. And social Darwinism.

You can't just look at these countries and say "yup, that happened, civil war, they all hate eachother, lets kill who we think is bad and that is all." There is a reason why all these issues are occurring.

Going in with this simplistic view is why I think America has done so bad at fixing up countries. We don't care about their culture. We don't care about who their remnants are. We just overgeneralize then and cross our fingers it works. A system that has failed over and over again. Especially in the Middle East where there is an extreme amount of diversity.

[Bmw]

the middle east is a place that doesnt make sense for most people in the usa all we need is the right way of looking at it and not the wrong like some people.