(Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

[DezNutz]

Nice straw man. Can always count on a liberal to reference Nazis and fascism. When you have nothing just call them a fascist.

Motive? Clinton gave Russia 20% of the USA Uranium deposits. Something worth a lot more than oil. Russia had motive to get Clinton elected not Trump. Tillerson had nothing to do with the Trump campaign until after the election.

And I guess in their genius plan to influence the election they figured that Trump should win the EC but lose the popular vote. Don't forget to ignore the fact that you can drive completely across the USA without crossing a single county that voted for Clinton.

[Grogggy]

Well there is General Flynn who tweeted after the election, "No Jews! Not this time, Jews!" And Bannon who doesn't want to send his kids to school with too many jews, "cause they raise whinny kids." Then there is the racist candidate himself, all mexicans are rapists, etc, etc. KKK victory parades. Thousands of hate crimes.

You notice though I havne't mentioned Clintons. Should be a non partisan issue--but not to the sudden russian apologists of the Republican party. Your uranium deal fake news thing is below comment, the Exxon deal was literally the largest capitalism deal in the history of mankind--and actually relevant to the discussion because the prime mover is now the US Secretary of State.

You can throw out Clinton derangement syndrome crapolla till your blue in the face, but sooner or later you have to accept that you've been suckered by a con man. He is completely unchecked by norms and rarely by law itself, he is unopposed by neither house of congress nor (thanks to republican obstructionism) a supreme court.

You run it all. Own it.

I've been playing Fallout Shelter instead of PG lately. Seems more relevant.

So lets stick to the original point that you disputed--Do you believe that the Russians engaged in a sophisticated agitprop operation to influence the US elections or don't you?

Of course we can't quantify the exact influence it might of had on the election, fake news, et al. But to deny it happened is just plain stupid sauce.

[DezNutz]

Another straw man.

Every nation is involved in operations to influence elections of other nations. It's the nature of the espionage business. If you think otherwise, you live in a bubble.

The extent of the exact influence does matter.

[Grogggy]

So that is a yes?

[Donald Trump]

Trump, soon to be only world leader who denies Global warming. Yet, that was ignored during election. Good choice America! Good choice!

And this anti pro-life no abortion bullshit is basically a sign of a radical Christian conservative in office. All I gotta say is that America won't do well.

The most destructive force are the most concerned groups: Christian conservatives and Progressive Liberals. I say destructive by the means they separate our country, and both over-generalize others off of mere political beliefs. I have to say I am disappointed at both sides this election, because everyone who cares about it has to apparently hate the other side. Until we can have an election year where people aren't throwing shit at everyone who doesn't agree with them. I refuse to vote.

"All liberals need safe spaces"
"All liberals are SJWs!"

"All conservatives are racist!"
"All conservatives are ignorant white cis-gendered males."

This is childish, and if you are born in America. People actually think like this.


"You show me someone sitting on his ass watching football all day, and I show you someone not causing trouble" - George Carlin

[Grogggy]

That's why I'm a Liberal for Christ.

[Donald Trump]

Being religious is fine by me. Acting as if religion needs to belong in government is not.

[Maha]

The most destructive force are the most concerned groups: Christian conservatives and Progressive Liberals. I say destructive by the means they separate our country, and both over-generalize others off of mere political beliefs.

seems like a third party is also over generalizing.

[Donald Trump]

I'm not third party. No party! Except for Diogenes's one, everyone gets kicked out of their houses and lives in a tub. When dead, you are catapulted and eaten by dogs

[Vane]

The constitution was established to protect the citizens from tyrannical government.

The fact Clinton wanted to change the constitution and disallow Americans the right to bear arms is one of the largest contributing factors to her loss.

Once any would be president suggests amending the constitution they should be immediately disqualified from the running.