SSTG/Bermuda will no longer be a whipping boy.

[Stan Rogers]

I am going to speculate that a explanatory note and offer of recompense would go a long way to paving the way for national ranking missions that require Bermudian targets.
I am also going to go even farther and speculate a lack of consideration has prompted this post from Kart. No Ayes members have ever been refused the ability to harvest Bermuda ranking points when needed. Typically, these could be taken from bermuda players with danger showing.

[Bmw]

bold statement i like it but it could backfire on you at sometime.

[Admiral Nelson]

[quote="Kart"]To all Pirates Glory players,

It is our goal in SSTG and in Bermuda to get along with as many people as we can. We try to be respectful if others will simply give us respect. It is not our ambition to be hostile towards others or to be bullies. However, there has come a time when we simply must say enough is enough. Over the last 6 months we have been attacked what could only be described as an unacceptable amount of times. Because of this we have come up with the following policy concerning those who would attack us. We will now be issuing bounties on people for heavy hostility towards Bermuda or voodoo attacks on SSTG members.

There are 3 basic forms of attack; skirmish, plunder when on the plunder board, and voodoo attacks. I will first address the skirmish and plunder attacks.

If a player attacks us enough to gain 150 hostility points with Bermuda we will consider this person an enemy of the nation. This is twice as much as it would take for a citizen of Bermuda to be kicked out of the nation. We feel this is a reasonable number to start with. Bounties will be placed in the following formats.

Hostility points
150 points
Skirmish Win Bounty 20,000 gold
Plunder Win Bounty 40,000 gold
Hostile Waters Bounty 50,000 gold

200 points
Hostile Natives 25,000 gold
Fujitive from Justice 100,000 gold
Lazy Craftsmen 25,000 gold
Hands of Gold 25,000 gold
Swarm of Worms 50,000 gold
Expensive Tools 25,000 gold

250 points
Plunder Win 100,000 (in addition to the first bounty of 40,000)
Blacklist 200,000

400 points
Case by case situation, Use of more severe voodoo bounties including levis, assassins, Magpies, Time Spirals, Sabotage etc...

In some cases the bounties would not be effective on certain players, we will look at those on a case by case situation. The above is our guidelines we will use, but it is only a guideline and we are not restricted in our actions by it.

In the case of those who have over these amounts of hostility points at this time, we will send letters offering a period of grace allowing the hostility points to fall below 150 points. These agreements will be uniform with all falling into that category, but will be kept private.

Voodoo attacks
These attacks will be looked at on a case by case situation. If someone cast harmful or probing voodoo on us we will put up appropriate voodoo bounties. In some cases we may decide to use voodoo ourselves in response.

From this point forward we will be responding to voodoo attacks and excessive attacks on our people. We still understand attacks are part of the game. We just will not be the whipping boy for people any longer.

Kart, King of Bermuda/Guildmaster of SSTG,
Council of Bermuda,
Senior and Junior leadership of SSTG[/quote]

You write, just to much. Couldn't you just get to the point that you are fed up with your players being treat like shit?

[Lana]

Mr Kart,

I find your nation/guild actions irrelevant. Of course the bounty board is there for a "good" reason and so is the skirmish system. However, THEY are to be used for purposes of which the citizens of Avonmora can also benefit. Along with these benefits their should and will be disadvantages, your so call "New Law" Sir is unethical. If you or any other one wants to point out why this is going to be an effective way to counter piracy then please, feel free to debate with me.

Thanks.

It's the first time I totally agree with our journalist with a thousand names!

I am going to speculate that a explanatory note and offer of recompense would go a long way to paving the way for national ranking missions that require Bermudian targets.
I am also going to go even farther and speculate a lack of consideration has prompted this post from Kart.

With Stan too!

Counting skirmish like an enemy attack?!
Bulling new players because of skirmish (we already saw that example regarding one of our -HELM players)... What are you thinking for goodness sake?
Btw, aren't you afraid of the ripple effect?
What about bounty on you or your mates?

[Most Lee Harmless]

A massive amount of missing the point here : Kart is merely offering a menu, with prices attached should you choose to feed off his members : if anyone doesnt like the offering, they should eat elsewhere : if they think it is reasonable and non-detering, carry on feeding.

One might almost think the concept of defending yourself from attacks is unethical chicanery from an ungrateful victim, whilst attacking is, of course, a blessed and noble act which can only be applauded by all, and especially the victim.

[Psychodad]

One might almost think the concept of defending yourself from attacks is unethical chicanery from an ungrateful victim, whilst attacking is, of course, a blessed and noble act which can only be applauded by all, and especially the victim.

+1

Kart is being very reasonable. Actions have consequences. Bad actions have bad consequences.

[Most Lee Harmless]

Ahoy Avonmora,
and to the ones who roam in darkness.


Mr Kart,

I find your nation/guild actions irrelevant. Of course the bounty board is there for a "good" reason and so is the skirmish system. However, THEY are to be used for purposes of which the citizens of Avonmora can also benefit. Along with these benefits their should and will be disadvantages, your so call "New Law" Sir is unethical. If you or any other one wants to point out why this is going to be an effective way to counter piracy then please, feel free to debate with me.

Thanks.

Sorry, but having one of the biggest multi-accounters in the game hold forth on what is 'ethical' does rather undermine any argument he puts forward.

[Lana]

A massive amount of missing the point here : Kart is merely offering a menu, with prices attached should you choose to feed off his members : if anyone doesnt like the offering, they should eat elsewhere : if they think it is reasonable and non-detering, carry on feeding.

One might almost think the concept of defending yourself from attacks is unethical chicanery from an ungrateful victim, whilst attacking is, of course, a blessed and noble act which can only be applauded by all, and especially the victim.

Nope Danik, you are missing the point!
Plundering someone who is already on plunder screen is totally acceptable, and that was the first law I learned here. If that someone is on plunder screen thanks to enemy voodoo attack, attacker is known and he has to deal with consequences.
Skirmish is acceptable too, what's more advisable for new players (even I don't like it), and I remember yours and comments of the other players regarding this way of earning money... So, attacking a newbee with double figures of voodoo, only because of skirmish ... It's a clear way of bulling!

Btw, this remind me of Pirate Roberts... he was an antibiotic for bullies...
Hope he will return soon!

[Most Lee Harmless]

I have rarely found any players to be unreasonable about having a pre-lit fleet hit : 'lit is hit' is a good rule of thumb : but I have also seen certain players over-do that hitting, to the point it can look like a concerted attempt to run down the purse and, maybe, go for the ships. Now, you can say, its the victims own fault for not carrying a big enough purse but you cant blame them for feeling a bit miffed at such events.

I find it contradictory to see the bounty board defended as being good for the game yet, when a guild announces it will use it, they get told its wrong to use it cos its bullying. Skirmishing is not my favorite improvement : It serves small purpose for me but does mean my high-value cargo's are at risk at any time : if a player consistently skirmishes me, I view that as an attempt to harm me, thus, its an attack, same as casting ambushes or fugi's. After all, a skirmish IS an ambush that cannot be prevented.

Bullying newbs? Well, to get to 150 hostility (which is the bar SSTG have set) those newbs will have done 15 skirmishes or hits : 3 skirmish a day adds 30 hostility : but each day, 24 is lost : do the math : to get to 150 is not a chance or random act... it takes effort.

And I know Roberts would not object to me pointing out that he would also get more than a little annoyed, and act on that annoyance, when his lit fleets got hit more than few times by the same player, as in my first point above : Who guards the guards, eh?

[Lana]

And you will put bounty on him?!

I am sure you will deal with that player in more efficient and faster way...