same old stan

[Lil Lola]

So the obviously China didn’t want yall finding out that the lab in Wuhan was creating a bio weapon. Not like USA hasnt done so with the smallpox. Covid release was an accident though. And that is why we were following what China did.

[Lachlan]

lol sounds good but the law was enacted regarding childcare and tax credits
Australians are on the record as saying what I have stated
what was conspiracy because there was no proof I stated

you on the other hand have said nuh uh and stuck your tongue out while singing nanny nanny boo booooooo




addition.... while after feb 11 2021 with the air bill the childcare and tax credits were not touched the one it replaced did

I could say you have done the same, completely ignoring my points and in some cases not providing proof. Again, I say a very small amount of people complained about the quarantine facilities compared to the vast majority who did not mind it. I will acknowledge however although the proof is limited, some people complained about the quarantine facilities.

Again, I say you told me any Australian with Covid had to go to those camps even if they did not want to. That was false. You have provided no evidence whatsoever of unvaccinated people losing childcare or tax benefits. Did some people lose their jobs due to mandatory vaccines. Yes, they did. Did they lose tax or childcare benefits? No, they did not as far as I am aware and you have provided no proof regarding that. In fact, certain childcare and government assistance increased during Covid such as jobseeker where they essentially gave you a few hundred bucks every week or fortnight or something as long as you had proof you were applying to different places to try and get a job (and were not studying full time). You also falsely claimed those purpose-built quarantine facilities were the main way people quarantined which is false. You also claim the American, Canadian and Australian governments were in cahoots with each other and following what each other was doing. Governments fight infectious diseases similar ways you realize.

The only things you have "proven" so far or provided evidence for is that there was purpose-built quarantine facilities built at the start of Covid, a handful of people complained about mistreatment etc in those facilities and one point which you did not really say but I acknowledged as true was that some people lost their jobs due to the vaccine mandate.

[Lachlan]

So the obviously China didn’t want yall finding out that the lab in Wuhan was creating a bio weapon. Not like USA hasnt done so with the smallpox. Covid release was an accident though. And that is why we were following what China did.

What do you mean following what China did?

[Dmanwuzhere]

lol sounds good but the law was enacted regarding childcare and tax credits
Australians are on the record as saying what I have stated
what was conspiracy because there was no proof I stated

you on the other hand have said nuh uh and stuck your tongue out while singing nanny nanny boo booooooo




addition.... while after feb 11 2021 with the air bill the childcare and tax credits were not touched the one it replaced did

I could say you have done the same, completely ignoring my points and in some cases not providing proof. Again, I say a very small amount of people complained about the quarantine facilities compared to the vast majority who did not mind it. I will acknowledge however although the proof is limited, some people complained about the quarantine facilities.

Again, I say you told me any Australian with Covid had to go to those camps even if they did not want to. That was false. You have provided no evidence whatsoever of unvaccinated people losing childcare or tax benefits. Did some people lose their jobs due to mandatory vaccines. Yes, they did. Did they lose tax or childcare benefits? No, they did not as far as I am aware and you have provided no proof regarding that. In fact, certain childcare and government assistance increased during Covid such as jobseeker where they essentially gave you a few hundred bucks every week or fortnight or something as long as you had proof you were applying to different places to try and get a job (and were not studying full time). You also falsely claimed those purpose-built quarantine facilities were the main way people quarantined which is false. You also claim the American, Canadian and Australian governments were in cahoots with each other and following what each other was doing. Governments fight infectious diseases similar ways you realize.

The only things you have "proven" so far or provided evidence for is that there was purpose-built quarantine facilities built at the start of Covid, a handful of people complained about mistreatment etc in those facilities and one point which you did not really say but I acknowledged as true was that some people lost their jobs due to the vaccine mandate.

I provided proof that people were forcibly taken to the camps (the lady in the video went to two camps and tested negative the whole time)
and escaping the camps got skip tracers and police after you and once caught you were returned as 3 negative testing teens who found out the hard way
a manhunt for escapees lol
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59486285
and this woman didn't like being detained in a hotel which was better than the camps lol
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59450174
I mean at 3k per kidnapped person payable to the govt and 5k per family
its easy to see the motivation for keeping all the facilities full for years
Where's the oversight on that cash?
but this guy has no problem telling the truth
https://rairfoundation.com/australia-ar ... mps-video/

Aussie was just as tyrannical as china

but then you say the people in the camps that discussed it were lying lmaooooooooo

You can look up the Air Act that replaced the act before it that did penalize child care and tax credits for about a year and a half of Covid


but bottom line is that Australia went full tyranny and you cant alter those facts

[Lachlan]

lol sounds good but the law was enacted regarding childcare and tax credits
Australians are on the record as saying what I have stated
what was conspiracy because there was no proof I stated

you on the other hand have said nuh uh and stuck your tongue out while singing nanny nanny boo booooooo




addition.... while after feb 11 2021 with the air bill the childcare and tax credits were not touched the one it replaced did

I could say you have done the same, completely ignoring my points and in some cases not providing proof. Again, I say a very small amount of people complained about the quarantine facilities compared to the vast majority who did not mind it. I will acknowledge however although the proof is limited, some people complained about the quarantine facilities.

Again, I say you told me any Australian with Covid had to go to those camps even if they did not want to. That was false. You have provided no evidence whatsoever of unvaccinated people losing childcare or tax benefits. Did some people lose their jobs due to mandatory vaccines. Yes, they did. Did they lose tax or childcare benefits? No, they did not as far as I am aware and you have provided no proof regarding that. In fact, certain childcare and government assistance increased during Covid such as jobseeker where they essentially gave you a few hundred bucks every week or fortnight or something as long as you had proof you were applying to different places to try and get a job (and were not studying full time). You also falsely claimed those purpose-built quarantine facilities were the main way people quarantined which is false. You also claim the American, Canadian and Australian governments were in cahoots with each other and following what each other was doing. Governments fight infectious diseases similar ways you realize.

The only things you have "proven" so far or provided evidence for is that there was purpose-built quarantine facilities built at the start of Covid, a handful of people complained about mistreatment etc in those facilities and one point which you did not really say but I acknowledged as true was that some people lost their jobs due to the vaccine mandate.

I provided proof that people were forcibly taken to the camps (the lady in the video went to two camps and tested negative the whole time)
and escaping the camps got skip tracers and police after you and once caught you were returned as 3 negative testing teens who found out the hard way
a manhunt for escapees lol
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59486285
and this woman didn't like being detained in a hotel which was better than the camps lol
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59450174
I mean at 3k per kidnapped person payable to the govt and 5k per family
its easy to see the motivation for keeping all the facilities full for years
Where's the oversight on that cash?
but this guy has no problem telling the truth
https://rairfoundation.com/australia-ar ... mps-video/

Aussie was just as tyrannical as china

but then you say the people in the camps that discussed it were lying lmaooooooooo

You can look up the Air Act that replaced the act before it that did penalize child care and tax credits for about a year and a half of Covid


but bottom line is that Australia went full tyranny and you cant alter those facts

I know you provided proof about that woman in the camp which is why I said you had some proof. In regards to the people in the camps I either said they were lying or exaggerating what had happened for attention. I'm also not sure where you got this monetary payment/bounty thing. I have never heard of that. It's contact tracers not skip tracers and it would have been police who track people down not the contact tracers. They just test if you have Covid or not. Then it's your responsibility to isolate yourself. If your running around the community infecting people you should be found and told to isolate yourself at home.

I'm pretty sure I also said at some point I also said something about the quarantine period but I might not have so I'll say it here. My view is that the first year of Covid in 2020 because of lack of information most governments had a mandatory 14 day quarantine period. I'm not sure why they decided 2 weeks but I assume due to lack of knowledge. We now know you can contract Covid and not show symptoms for 2 or 3 days. I have always supported a 7 day quarantine not a 14 day quarantine and I think they eventually changed it to 7 days sometime during late 2021. People who were negative were put in there yes, like our olympic team for a mandatory quarantine period. You were put there if you were negative or positive initially. I'm certain I said that before.

As for the people who were not allowed to see their dying relatives I saw a few cases during Covid of that which I thought was horrible and whichever government official should have allowed those people to go see their relatives if they were testing negative because they would be fairly low risk and they should have been allowed on compassionate grounds. I'm pretty sure during that period you could get out of quarantine if you tested negative twice across 2 or 3 days but some government officials are idiots with no sense of compassion and made then isolate the full period, so that is true.
Close contacts of people with Covid were suggested to isolate but I see from one of the articles you provided that they were also put in quarantine so I suppose in some cases that was true. Another issue which was raised after the lockdowns were that the longer they went on the more people started disobeying it and the less effective it got so they should have done shorter lockdowns and by that I mean instead of one large lockdown, 2 or 3 short lockdowns over the same period. Due to not having pandemics as large as Covid for decades and decades I think at the start most governments were bumbling around the first year. It is true Australia and other countries made many mistakes initially and if we have another large pandemic in a few decades, I think the response of most governments will be better, more moderated and targeted. Most countries initially were trying for a 0% Covid infection rate hence the long lockdowns which due to it being a pandemic would have been impossible to achieve.

The only AIR act I can find was to make it mandatory for vaccine providers to record a person's vaccine history. It does not say anything about tax credits or childcare as far as I can see.

These quarantine facilities however were for travelers and were not the main way to quarantine people in Australia who were not travelling such as schoolchildren who got Covid from classmates. It is good you are providing evidence for your arguments, I just had not seen most of what you now provided previously because you just said those claims without saying where you got the information from.

[Meliva]

Frankly, Covid was just one giant debacle and really made tons of governments just look awful. It's still around, so they didn't eradicate it, it's nowhere near as bad as they made it out to be, and that vaccine they rushed out, doesn't even work-least not that well.

I got the vaccine. Got the boosters. Still got covid. Was like a nasty sickness, ruined my appetite and was very unpleasant. But i've gotten sicker from food poisoning.

The reaction of trying to basically shut down and isolate all of society, over it, was just insane. That vaccine they rushed also didn't work that well, least not for me. By far the worst part though, was so many officials broke their own damn rules about isolating. I recall several who still went to protests, or went to non-essential shops while everyone else had to s**k it up and stay locked up.

All this will make it where the next time a pandemic hits, a lotta people are gonna be very skeptical and hesitant about listening to the government after this whole clown show.

[Leo]

I remember that after George Floyd got killed so many people started protesting and all the sudden politicians who didn't care about following the guidelines and would break them all the time started having meltdowns about people breaking social distancing rules by protesting. I only went to a few during the bulk of the pandemic but most of if not all people were wearing masks. Once the mask mandates we're dropped for indoor spaces people stopped wearing them so much at protests as well

[Meliva]

I remember that after George Floyd got killed so many people started protesting and all the sudden politicians who didn't care about following the guidelines and would break them all the time started having meltdowns about people breaking social distancing rules by protesting. I only went to a few during the bulk of the pandemic but most of if not all people were wearing masks. Once the mask mandates we're dropped for indoor spaces people stopped wearing them so much at protests as well

The politicians and the bulk of the people protesting about Floyd were the largely the same people who harped on and on about the importance of social distancing and masks-leftists. A lotta folks particularly on the right didn't see covid as such a big deal. The fact that the ones most vocal about isolating yourselves weren't even doing it themselves really didn't help their case.

Either it's a pandemic and people need to be isolated as much as possible, and that applies to everyone, or it's not a big deal, and you can still gather in groups if you want to. The rules shouldn't apply to some and not others. People were banned from gathering in churches, yet protests were fine?

If I didn't care about a guideline, and you kept harping me that I should care, and I see you suddenly break that same guideline, you can bet I'm gonna make a fuss about it. You're the one pushing for the damn thing! It's like if some vegan yells at me about eating meat and animal rights, and I see them later that day buy a leather coat. I'm probably gonna call them out on it-not because I think buying a leather coat is wrong, but because they're a hypocrite. If covid was such a big huge scary problem, and isolating was so desperately needed, then the folks promoting that everyone should be following these guidelines, have no right to break them unless absolutely necessary. The folks who didn't care and were breaking them anyway didn't see it as a big problem, but the fact that folks tried to push it on them, only to not live up to that same standard would make anyone raise a fuss over it.

[Meliva]

and don't even get me started on all that crap that people did because of what happened to Floyd. There wasn't just protests, there were literal riots about it, and the worst part is, is that floyd wasn't even some innocent victim. Guy was a scumbag. I mean, I'll agree that the cop went too far restraining him, and deserved some sort of punishment for what he did, but for so many folks to literally riot over his death was just stupid-doubly so when the cop was actually even punished. It's like idiots who trash their city when their own team wins a big game. Some people just want an excuse to break crap.

[Leo]

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. He didn't even get a hearing. Doesn't matter if you think he's a scumbag or not, only a judge can sentence him to death