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Re: same old stan

Postby Meliva » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:41 am

also, high tariffs were not a key factor in "creating" the depression. Many of the tariffs came about when the depression first hit, and resulted in retaliatory tariffs which ended up worsening it. There is a difference between the tariffs creating it, and the tariffs worsening it.
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Re: same old stan

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:51 am

Hey, it's you folk who don't want to help : those starving neighbours kids you wrote about. I am just agreeing with you. Go home. Look after yourselves. You don't want the cost of being the Worlds Policeman? Then hand back the badge. Circle your wagons, build a wall, whistle Dixie! We no longer care. If we have to do stuff ourselves then we will. You don't get to decide what we will do. Whatever happened to that good old battlecry of 'Better dead than Red!' : now we have to bend the knee and 'survive' by handing over our futures to either the Mad Monk or the Tango Man?

So much for the Arsenal of Democracy, the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave : that light up upon that hill, thats the the Muskrats chainsaw gleaming in the white heat of the tech-bros coke pile.

You have sold your souls and pissed on your ancestors dreams : just go away and take your contagion with you.
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Re: same old stan

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:56 am

Stede Bonnet wrote:
Dmanwuzhere wrote:smash polymers on a glock with a hammer
do the same for 3d printed guns
the manufacturing process is totally different
firing with a polymer that absorbs shock is different than 3d plastics that shock leaves microscopic cracks in to create failures over time
a combination of a print with a polymer layer on top might ve functional long term but whats the point lol

I can take some gas pipe a cap a nail and a shotgun shell and have fun
a little time some steel and again having fun

no way I'm playing with a 3d printer
the story of the guy who started it and and overcame arrest and lawfare to keep sharing it for free and building them legal
is the only part of that hobby I agree with


Maybe 10 years ago, but most modern printers can print glass filled nylon, the same material used in Glock frames-- or many other materials. There definitely are differences as a result of the manufacturing processes, injection molding is going to produce more resilient parts than additive manufacturing. But we're even seeing a lot of gun companies use 3d printing for developmental stages of new designs, because it significantly speeds up iteration times and reduces costs.

Even with all that said, if I had a choice, I'd choose a traditionally made firearm. I just really don't like this pretty pervasive idea that 3d printed guns are just bad, that they don't work, and they're unreliable. I'm sure people said the same thing about Glock's when they came around. "You can't trust that darn plastic, it'll get you killed. I only carry my steel-framed 1911, won two world wars! And it's in god's caliber .45, not that wimpy 9mm. So what if it's twice the weight has less than half the capacity? If you can't finish em' with 7, you deserved to get killed."

Sorry if I come off as a bit a**pained I just think 3d printed guns are really cool.


So do I... for those who want to make it a hobby.
But when you talk about a printed part the amount of things that can go wrong is currently more than I would gamble with.
wrong heating temp, wrong cooling temp, and bonding issues, to name just a few.
3D printers don’t always create high-quality items, and regular people aren’t likely to engage in rigorous quality assurance testing before using a 3D-printed firearm.
That's without even considering the source of the file.

Currently, you couldn't pay me to utilize one at a firing range without a string and a vise to pull the trigger let alone defend my life or my families
life when there are much more reliable options.
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Re: same old stan

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:59 am

Most Lee Harmless wrote:Hey, it's you folk who don't want to help : those starving neighbours kids you wrote about. I am just agreeing with you. Go home. Look after yourselves. You don't want the cost of being the Worlds Policeman? Then hand back the badge. Circle your wagons, build a wall, whistle Dixie! We no longer care. If we have to do stuff ourselves then we will. You don't get to decide what we will do. Whatever happened to that good old battlecry of 'Better dead than Red!' : now we have to bend the knee and 'survive' by handing over our futures to either the Mad Monk or the Tango Man?

So much for the Arsenal of Democracy, the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave : that light up upon that hill, thats the the Muskrats chainsaw gleaming in the white heat of the tech-bros coke pile.

You have sold your souls and pissed on your ancestors dreams : just go away and take your contagion with you.


poor lil feller all this crying
cant imagine what would happen if we smacked you :D :D :D
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Re: same old stan

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:03 am

Meliva wrote:also, high tariffs were not a key factor in "creating" the depression. Many of the tariffs came about when the depression first hit, and resulted in retaliatory tariffs which ended up worsening it. There is a difference between the tariffs creating it, and the tariffs worsening it.



Fordney–McCumber Tariff dates to 1922. As a result within five years other countries imposed their own tariffs on US goods. Thus a period of retaliatory tarrifs and protectionist measures began. In 1929 the Great Depression struck.

Its rather logical : if nobody is selling you stuff then it isn't long before nobody is buying your stuff either. Money has to go round and when it stops going round you have a liquidity crisis and boom... there goes the Stock Market.
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Re: same old stan

Postby Meliva » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:04 am

I don't mind helping, but not to ungrateful and entitled people like you, who the moment we start talking about focusing on our own problems, you immediately start talking all sorts of crap and insults to us.

Sold our souls? Calling us a contagion? yeah, really making me regret not wanting to help. Maybe you should throw a few more insults and lecture us some more, maybe that will work. Why should we help you fight off the russians, and expect nothing in return? Why should american lives be tossed into wars to fight for other's interest, american money and supplies given to help, all while American veterans suffer, we are trillions in debt, and our "allies" don't seem to give a damn about any of those issues?

Also, last I checked, you ain't the god emperor of all foreigners. You don't speak for all of them. Many of them are good people, who are actually appreciative and grateful for our support. I'll gladly support us giving help to those who show thanks and help us in return. But if you just want us to be your atm and just bend over and take it from you in our arse while you milk us like a cow, then that's where I have a problem with "helping".
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Re: same old stan

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:07 am

Most Lee Harmless wrote:Did you read what I wrote? Nobody wants your help because its not help, under Trump it simply asking another gangster to come rob you instead of Putin.

Stay away. Lock yourself up in your own little bubble of self-superiority. That went so well for you in the 1930's. Hey, you do know the high tariff policy of isolationist USA was a key factor in creating the Great Depression, don't you. Repeat the same mistakes. Just keep your nutcase of a President and his mania out of our affairs. Smartest thing we coukd do is to agree with America First and leave you to do it all yourselves. Stop exporting any goods to the US and stop importing any of your stuff. Then you can cheer because you ain't 'subsidising' anyone anymore. Zero trade balances!

Just take all your junk with you when you leave.



Funny, world leaders keep asking for our help including your two-bit chunk of nothing.
Let me know when you are trusted enough by your populace to make such a call.
Until then... thank you... your tears along with the rest of the butthurt can be sent to the Sahara and make a new ocean :D :D :D
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Re: same old stan

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:10 am

What's your problem : I'm agreeing with you! Go home, look after No1 and stop pretending the rest of the world matters. America First!

Just be aware that will only apply in America. Why should the rest of the globe place your intersts first? Why place our interests second to yours? You don't place yourself second, why should we?

You complain about helping others and when we say, 'Then don't!' ...you start complaining we ain't grateful enough for the help you don't want to give us! Make up your mind!
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Re: same old stan

Postby Meliva » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:13 am

Most Lee Harmless wrote:
Meliva wrote:also, high tariffs were not a key factor in "creating" the depression. Many of the tariffs came about when the depression first hit, and resulted in retaliatory tariffs which ended up worsening it. There is a difference between the tariffs creating it, and the tariffs worsening it.



Fordney–McCumber Tariff dates to 1922. As a result within five years other countries imposed their own tariffs on US goods. Thus a period of retaliatory tarrifs and protectionist measures began. In 1929 the Great Depression struck.

Its rather logical : if nobody is selling you stuff then it isn't long before nobody is buying your stuff either. Money has to go round and when it stops going round you have a liquidity crisis and boom... there goes the Stock Market.


The Smoot-Hawley tariff in 1930 caused more of an effect then that one did. You could maybe argue that one was a key cause of the great depression, since maybe without it, it would have just been a normal depression or a recession, but there were many other bigger factors that built up to the crash in 1929. But even if I did concede that tariffs were a key cause of it, that's a far cry from the main cause, or the sole cause. So that doesn't justify acting like tariffs are a universally bad idea.
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Re: same old stan

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:19 am

Most Lee Harmless wrote:What's your problem : I'm agreeing with you! Go home, look after No1 and stop pretending the rest of the world matters. America First!

Just be aware that will only apply in America. Why should the rest of the globe place your intersts first? Why place our interests second to yours? You don't place yourself second, why should we?

You complain about helping others and when we say, 'Then don't!' ...you start complaining we ain't grateful enough for the help you don't want to give us! Make up your mind!


Lmao a veiled threat from a nobody... not one leader agrees with you but I sure wish they did. :D :D :D
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