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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby DezNutz » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:52 pm

Captain Mac Snow wrote:
Proof

1. Hightop spend 600 M on influence to get the port with you.
2. Hightop got 0 compensantion back. Proof on this thread by your saying.
3. Hightop spend aproximately around 375M-750M on HNs cast to PR guild.
4. Hightop never attacked to claim the gold. All the gold was claimed by VUDU members. Again 0 compensation given proof can be found in this thread.

so in conclussion

1. Hightop spend more than 1B the last 9 months.
2. You people took all the benefit from those casts. ( my 60m, along with lets say 50 M from every other member) so lets say you got like 600M- 1B?
3. He got 0 compensation as you guys said, along with 0 profit from trading. His Voodoo stack remains the same.

So how is this account utilized for itself? isn't it just constantly losing resources with 0 benefit? I mean am i blind?? do i miss something here?? How is this any different from if i leave guild turn pirate and start pushing my guild and spend every singe gc and credit for this cause?


Proof Response:
1. Not proof of anything. There are these things called Charity Donation. Once a player has about 20-25M influence in a single port, you can raise influence sufficiently without spending millions of gc. As well, I had more influence in Gasp at the time than all the canadian players minus Stan combined.
2. Not sure what you are getting at? Who compensates players for putting influence into the nation they belong to? I have seen nations give players gc to put into influence, but I wouldn't call it compensation.
3. So?
4. There are a variety of reasons why that could have happened. I've cast HNs and have collected 0 on numerous occassions. It's not some rare occurrence.

Conclusions Response:
1. Have no actual proof of what he spent. And as dman said, where did he get it from as he makes no income according to you.
2. Yeah, it's called first come first serve on the plunderboards. I've had fleets sniped by both guildmates and other players on numerous occassions because they were online. If VUDU sees the boards filled, we drop a message and get to plundering.
3. If he is spending voodoo, he must be using what is in his inventory, which means it's going up and down. As for compensation, I stated myself and Midway Islands didn't compensate. You cannot possibly know what profits or payments he has received. And if he spent this supposed 1B gc in game, it has to come and generate from somewhere. If you aren't bringing in large resources, you can't spend large resources.

ACTUAL Conclusions:
1. You don't have anything that is of substance beyond speculation and incredible logic jumps based on information that you could not possible have.
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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby Captain Mac Snow » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:02 pm

Dmanwuzhere wrote:Proof

1. Hightop spend 600 M on influence to get the port with you. :D how do you know what he spent :D
2. Hightop got 0 compensantion back. Proof on this thread by your saying. :D ports are rarely money makers :D
3. Hightop spend aproximately around 375M-750M on HNs cast to PR guild. :D how much has your guild spent on him without a ROI :D
4. Hightop never attacked to claim the gold. All the gold was claimed by VUDU members. Again 0 compensation given proof can be found in this thread. :D proof in this thread... do you mean because you typed it many times before :D

so in conclussion

1. Hightop spend more than 1B the last 9 months :D where did he get this billion :D
2. You people took all the benefit from those casts. ( my 60m, along with lets say 50 M from every other member) so lets say you got like 600M- 1B?
:D you people... meaning every guild that had a member hit or does only vudu hits count :D
3. He got 0 compensation as you guys said, along with 0 profit from trading. His Voodoo stack remains the same.
:D i can light you up and not hit you and be rewarded enough by your crying to not even bother hitting you :D

So how is this account utilized for itself? isn't it just constantly losing resources with 0 benefit? I mean am i blind?? do i miss something here?? How is this any different from if i leave guild turn pirate and start pushing my guild and spend every singe gc and credit for this cause?

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1. i know cause i saw his 60M influence among others! Its a fact! Nothing you can deny!
2. doesnt explain him wasting 600M on your cause.
3. that creates a double gain for you isnt it? further pushing i guess since he drains not only gc but also voodoo while he convert gc into HNs for you to get the gold. quite convinient...
4. you said so, that you didnt give him anything back and you the most benefited from his casts.

so in conclussion

1. so is it ok if i push my guild after a donate?
2. most of it came to you! like 80%-90%
3. the fact is that if dez is there to collect the gold for several months, its gonna be considerd pushing, like if i do it with someone else.
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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby Captain Mac Snow » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:10 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Captain Mac Snow wrote:
Proof

1. Hightop spend 600 M on influence to get the port with you.
2. Hightop got 0 compensantion back. Proof on this thread by your saying.
3. Hightop spend aproximately around 375M-750M on HNs cast to PR guild.
4. Hightop never attacked to claim the gold. All the gold was claimed by VUDU members. Again 0 compensation given proof can be found in this thread.

so in conclussion

1. Hightop spend more than 1B the last 9 months.
2. You people took all the benefit from those casts. ( my 60m, along with lets say 50 M from every other member) so lets say you got like 600M- 1B?
3. He got 0 compensation as you guys said, along with 0 profit from trading. His Voodoo stack remains the same.

So how is this account utilized for itself? isn't it just constantly losing resources with 0 benefit? I mean am i blind?? do i miss something here?? How is this any different from if i leave guild turn pirate and start pushing my guild and spend every singe gc and credit for this cause?


Proof Response:
1. Not proof of anything. There are these things called Charity Donation. Once a player has about 20-25M influence in a single port, you can raise influence sufficiently without spending millions of gc. As well, I had more influence in Gasp at the time than all the canadian players minus Stan combined.
2. Not sure what you are getting at? Who compensates players for putting influence into the nation they belong to? I have seen nations give players gc to put into influence, but I wouldn't call it compensation.
3. So?
4. There are a variety of reasons why that could have happened. I've cast HNs and have collected 0 on numerous occassions. It's not some rare occurrence.

Conclusions Response:
1. Have no actual proof of what he spent. And as dman said, where did he get it from as he makes no income according to you.
2. Yeah, it's called first come first serve on the plunderboards. I've had fleets sniped by both guildmates and other players on numerous occassions because they were online. If VUDU sees the boards filled, we drop a message and get to plundering.
3. If he is spending voodoo, he must be using what is in his inventory, which means it's going up and down. As for compensation, I stated myself and Midway Islands didn't compensate. You cannot possibly know what profits or payments he has received. And if he spent this supposed 1B gc in game, it has to come and generate from somewhere. If you aren't bringing in large resources, you can't spend large resources.

ACTUAL Conclusions:
1. You don't have anything that is of substance beyond speculation and incredible logic jumps based on information that you could not possible have.


Again 25M influence is alot of money! 250M plus the credits for charity donations.

Ofcourse i know what he spend man!!!

I'm in PR guild! i see what he cast!!! OFCOURSE I KNOW WHAT HE SPEND!!! IVE WITNESS ALL OF IT!!! we've been casting SNs and everytime he is with 2 fleets. i know what he spends and what he gains! he has limits to the gains since his fleets are limited! I understand he Witch doctored! so i'm asking! if i throw 50$ can i push my guild?
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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:16 pm

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:o: :D :D :D :D

prove it .... how many of each curse has he cast..... youre tracking it right.... so get specific :D :D :D

how much has he stole from vudu by making hits.... dont lie i seen him hit today and a day or so ago .... tell me so i can get vudu busy getting it back... :D :D :D
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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby DezNutz » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:19 pm

Captain Mac Snow wrote:
DezNutz wrote:Proof Response:
1. Not proof of anything. There are these things called Charity Donation. Once a player has about 20-25M influence in a single port, you can raise influence sufficiently without spending millions of gc. As well, I had more influence in Gasp at the time than all the canadian players minus Stan combined.
2. Not sure what you are getting at? Who compensates players for putting influence into the nation they belong to? I have seen nations give players gc to put into influence, but I wouldn't call it compensation.
3. So?
4. There are a variety of reasons why that could have happened. I've cast HNs and have collected 0 on numerous occassions. It's not some rare occurrence.

Conclusions Response:
1. Have no actual proof of what he spent. And as dman said, where did he get it from as he makes no income according to you.
2. Yeah, it's called first come first serve on the plunderboards. I've had fleets sniped by both guildmates and other players on numerous occassions because they were online. If VUDU sees the boards filled, we drop a message and get to plundering.
3. If he is spending voodoo, he must be using what is in his inventory, which means it's going up and down. As for compensation, I stated myself and Midway Islands didn't compensate. You cannot possibly know what profits or payments he has received. And if he spent this supposed 1B gc in game, it has to come and generate from somewhere. If you aren't bringing in large resources, you can't spend large resources.

ACTUAL Conclusions:
1. You don't have anything that is of substance beyond speculation and incredible logic jumps based on information that you could not possible have.


Again 25M influence is alot of money! 250M plus the credits for charity donations.

Ofcourse i know what he spend man!!!

I'm in PR guild! i see what he cast!!! OFCOURSE I KNOW WHAT HE SPEND!!! IVE WITNESS ALL OF IT!!! we've been casting SNs and everytime he is with 2 fleets. i know what he spends and what he gains! he has limits to the gains since his fleets are limited! I understand he Witch doctored! so i'm asking! if i throw 50$ can i push my guild?


So what you saw what he cast on teammates. That means about nothing.

You can't know what he spent. Other players could have cast Charity Donation on him. So again you couldn't possibly know this.

And 25M Influence is actually only about 200M gc if you maxed out Political Science Tech, which is the cheapest and easiest tech to max.

You know what he gains? Please provide these details, I would love to see the breakdown of how much he makes. ANd don't forget to list all the revenue streams in game.
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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby Mack » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:26 pm

What I seen in the past that concerned me was all of his attacks he made himself lost.... For others gain
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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby Captain Mac Snow » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:31 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Captain Mac Snow wrote:
DezNutz wrote:Proof Response:
1. Not proof of anything. There are these things called Charity Donation. Once a player has about 20-25M influence in a single port, you can raise influence sufficiently without spending millions of gc. As well, I had more influence in Gasp at the time than all the canadian players minus Stan combined.
2. Not sure what you are getting at? Who compensates players for putting influence into the nation they belong to? I have seen nations give players gc to put into influence, but I wouldn't call it compensation.
3. So?
4. There are a variety of reasons why that could have happened. I've cast HNs and have collected 0 on numerous occassions. It's not some rare occurrence.

Conclusions Response:
1. Have no actual proof of what he spent. And as dman said, where did he get it from as he makes no income according to you.
2. Yeah, it's called first come first serve on the plunderboards. I've had fleets sniped by both guildmates and other players on numerous occassions because they were online. If VUDU sees the boards filled, we drop a message and get to plundering.
3. If he is spending voodoo, he must be using what is in his inventory, which means it's going up and down. As for compensation, I stated myself and Midway Islands didn't compensate. You cannot possibly know what profits or payments he has received. And if he spent this supposed 1B gc in game, it has to come and generate from somewhere. If you aren't bringing in large resources, you can't spend large resources.

ACTUAL Conclusions:
1. You don't have anything that is of substance beyond speculation and incredible logic jumps based on information that you could not possible have.


Again 25M influence is alot of money! 250M plus the credits for charity donations.

Ofcourse i know what he spend man!!!

I'm in PR guild! i see what he cast!!! OFCOURSE I KNOW WHAT HE SPEND!!! IVE WITNESS ALL OF IT!!! we've been casting SNs and everytime he is with 2 fleets. i know what he spends and what he gains! he has limits to the gains since his fleets are limited! I understand he Witch doctored! so i'm asking! if i throw 50$ can i push my guild?


So what you saw what he cast on teammates. That means about nothing.

You can't know what he spent. Other players could have cast Charity Donation on him. So again you couldn't possibly know this.

And 25M Influence is actually only about 200M gc if you maxed out Political Science Tech, which is the cheapest and easiest tech to max.

You know what he gains? Please provide these details, I would love to see the breakdown of how much he makes. ANd don't forget to list all the revenue streams in game.


So in 4 months this genius managed to maxed politician speech? maintain selling and buying voodoo. maintain contnuous casts. and all this without a singe guide from any guild. S

The last 9 months he casted 75 HNs only to me. The fact though is that he isnt casting just to me. so lets say he casted 500 HNs the last 9 months (very reasonable number). 500 times 1,5 credit that equals to 375M minimum. plus 250 M for influence. still you over half Billion. That would be the minimum of what he spend.

now HNs dont go for 1,5 credits but for 1,98
plus any charity donation or any other voodoo that he casted like assasins and thiving magpies would be just an addition to this amount. Saying he spend 1B gc is quite rasional and even concervative.
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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:32 pm

lol how can you see that mack .... i just see hits.... or are you saying you see him losing to your guild.... otherwise you cant see the result .... or was he pushing you guys :D :D :D :D cmon mack you can tell us about your multi in another guild :D :D :D

mac slow is pushing :D :D :D where is your voodoo cost returned :D :D :D :D


# Curse Name Expires in Target Type Active on Casted by
1. Hostile Natives 17h 21m Player Hightop (#98756) Captain Mac Snow (#59405)
2. Hostile Natives 17h 22m Player Hightop (#98756) Captain Mac Snow (#59405)
3. Hostile Natives 17h 22m Player Hightop (#98756) Captain Mac Snow (#59405)
4. Taxation 1d 5h 5m Player Hightop (#98756) Tom Lowe (#10214)
2022-12-10 20:26:15

:D :D :D :D

you take spies then cast hns :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby DezNutz » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:41 pm

Political Speech Costs:
Total Gold Bars Required for ALL levels: Gold Bars 11,245

Total Gold Coins Required for ALL levels: Gold Coins 40,000,000

Total Research Time Required for ALL levels: Time 85d 21h 45m 00s


So yeah completely do able, and would be even easier especially if they bought credits.
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Re: I love talking about alternate/multi accounts Bonanza

Postby Mack » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:41 pm

Dmanwuzhere wrote:lol how can you see that mack .... i just see hits.... or are you saying you see him losing to your guild.... otherwise you cant see the result .... or was he pushing you guys :D :D :D :D cmon mack you can tell us about your multi in another guild :D :D :D

mac slow is pushing :D :D :D where is your voodoo cost returned :D :D :D :D


# Curse Name Expires in Target Type Active on Casted by
1. Hostile Natives 17h 21m Player Hightop (#98756) Captain Mac Snow (#59405)
2. Hostile Natives 17h 22m Player Hightop (#98756) Captain Mac Snow (#59405)
3. Hostile Natives 17h 22m Player Hightop (#98756) Captain Mac Snow (#59405)
4. Taxation 1d 5h 5m Player Hightop (#98756) Tom Lowe (#10214)
2022-12-10 20:26:15

:D :D :D :D

you take spies then cast hns :D :D :D :D :D

I've cast voodoo a few times telling me... I dont want to do admin work
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