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What is the truth?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:09 am
by Xepshunall
I will forgo my desire to void contact with Admiral Blackpants for the purpose of getting to the truth; provided that it is desirable to Admiral Blackpants to allow complete candor in this public topic since it is obvious that Admiral Blackpants found it acceptable to allow the rest of Pirates Glory to know that I find her to be a poor acquaintance let alone friend.

I once thought she was worthy enough to invest in a subscription to another game so that, if I were to be disappointed with this game and retire from it, I wouldn't lose her friendship. Since then her methods in the game were the source of some controversy. Truth is that she is still here and to the best of my knowledge spent no time banned though the situation was reportedly brought to the attention of Captain Jack. If this is true then Captain Jack, in his limited understanding of the whole picture, has certainly used what information is at his disposal to ascertain the validity of the claims made against Admiral Blackpants and either proved or decided to accept that Admiral Blackpants had not infringed on the fairness that is owed to the rest of us. Truth be known, if there was any wrong doing, it would have been academic since so few citizens of Wales were pursuing rank at the time anyway. For those of us who have our opinions of the evidence publicly available at the time in question, it is simply a question of honor and trust.

[REMOVED TO, HOPEFULLY, HEAD OFF UNFAIR TREATMENT OF A FRIEND]

But on a seemingly related note, I did provide a large amount of support to another female in the guild of ABP. Strangely, the reaction of ABP to the aide provided to the female player was to tell me that I was being manipulated by someone claiming to be a female and using the flag of Wales to rally my support. Another major act by ABP was to tell the other female that she was not to accept my assistance. Now, what is strange about that second act was that it was different from what she said to her male guild members. To them she simply warned that I may be trying to coerce them and create spies in her guild. This is a realistic point to consider for those who are unaware of my intentions but I was open to ABP from the start about why I was helping her to prosper and bumping her influence in Tortuga. Why she would begrudge her own guild members the opportunity to advance themselves at the low price of investing in their nation is beyond any logical reasoning. Those who have ever found that they aren't the only person that their friend hung out with may be able to come up with a theory.

Now since Captain Johnny Walker in all of the chivalry that was given to his ????(??), ABP, posed a question after he failed to truthfully address the question of whether it is fair or right for ABP to require that her underlings (I use that term since it is clear that there is some oppression going on there) send her their daily present, I feel that it is only right that he and the IMOs members get an honest answer to that question. Before I answer, I feel that it is only fair that I quote the question.

Hollywood wrote:and Not that IMO is any of your business on how we work within, but think for a minute, it seems that everyone thinks ABP is greedy because we insist on members of IMO make her their present buddy, well when they do this, dont they also get the same present as well?? no loss, or oppression here is there, whats the problem?? again, im not sure how this pertaines to anyone in PK is beyond me, what would everyone like? for us to instruct OUR members to do?? send some to other people... like maybe you??, I dont think so.


The part of that that really stands out as untruthful is, "no loss".
Now lets just look at what would happen if a guild had 101 players each of whom played daily and gave his present diligently to his guild leader. Let's ignore the two potential voodoos that each gets without interacting with another player and the one potential voodoo for those with a perfect relationship with his wife at the time of claiming the present.
Each of 100 of the guild members gets 1 voodoo card that they can count on if they come onto a situation where that card is useful. The guild leader of that guild gets 101 assuming she send one out. If she happens to send it to one of her underlings, then one of the 100 actually gets 2 voodoo cards.
Now lets look at the same guild with the same present omissions as before when each guild member has a trading partner assigned. Each player gets a copy of the present that he sends and another from his trade partner. That's 100 cards sent to a deserving member of the guild and 100 less cards going to the guild leader, may she choke on the ones she has been offered thus far.

I have one more important point to make. I am a truck driver. ABP knows this. She somehow thinks that it's okay to point out that I haven't done anything to help her guild's innocent members. She doesn't seem to think it's fair that I have the right to decide from evidence who is innocent before I decide who to help. So far I have helped one innocent. I hellped Luffy of PK. Yes. I admit to helping a member of a guild that has many enemies of TMN and IMO. As a whole, I don't agree with the justifications made by some of the players attacking TMN and IMO on behalf of PK including some members of PK but I find great fault in the methods and reasons for some of the actions taken by the leaders of TMN and IMO in the extended battle that has been the talk of the tavern lately.
Now back to some of the manipulative arguments made by ABP toward my promise to the innocents. All players that I have found to be innocent thus far have had my support and my vow for future support if it is required. The total number of proven innocents was one and I already told you who it was. If I find that there were more innocents, I will rush to their aid as quickly as I can. I dislike mistreatment of merchants who have done nothing but thrown their lot in with the wrong leader. I welcome all innocent targets of this war to come forth with their claims of innocence and a tally of their losses so that I can determine the validity of your claims and begin working on helping with recovery efforts. Remember that I am a truck driver. Sometimes I sleep, sometimes I drive. During these times, I'm not going to be considering your cases. I can only do what I can during waking hours of non working periods.

Re: What is the truth?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:31 am
by M0nkeydluffy
;) i owe u bro..u have my undying gratitude..u and sparrow..u see friends worth only in the direst circumstances..as for abp and hes cronies..their time will come

Re: What is the truth?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:03 am
by MAjesty
Xep!!! ur doing it wrong... don't ever feed the trolls, it just makes them stronger.

Re: What is the truth?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:55 pm
by Hollywood
M0nkeydluffy wrote:;) i owe u bro..u have my undying gratitude..u and sparrow..u see friends worth only in the direst circumstances..as for abp and hes cronies..their time will come


Look, as iv TRIED to state before, maybe this is my fault for not being more clear, ill try again...... I and ABP both sent you Luffy a letter explaining about regret that you might of been dragged into the spotlight, explained by you saying how if my intel was good id know you were inactive for months, and how you refused a pact with Roi,.... tell me if we did what you seem to sugest, (which is to have left you alone because of in-activity) are you saying that you'd of refused helping in a war against TMN??.... I would bet DOLLARS to DOUGHNUTS that you might of concidered comming out of retirement for a couple days.... dont you think!!?? well guess what, so did I, and you being the muscle in PK (along with another or two) we went after you as well. Besides you were saying how i was the target and how your "levi trigger finger " was itchy. So tell me is it really that you feel that I was excessive??, or is it truly that you got beat to the punch?? OR let me ask you THIS way... WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE!!?? and as far as your last post, let me guess... HMMMM, ill guess that your gonna buy (with x's help) as many levi's as you can and then on a complete blindside do to me the very same thing, TAKE OUT ALL YOUR SOL'S?? seems right dosent it??, well I ask everyone here reading this, am I posing a threat to PK??, did I make any SILLY demands like "you need to leave the guild" or "you need to rename the guild" exactly like the the very same ones that you made to me after the last war?? is TMN or IMO attacking anybody from Pk??( I DONT THINK SO PAL.... NOT AT ALL!! as a matter of fact, TECHNICALLY if ANYONE reads your post that I have quoted above, it is YOU who is STILL the threatining one in this, not using thought for any other PK members other than yourself!! If you were to do this it would be out of rage without provocation, and not defence (as I did) which makes the act FAR worse than simply defending yourself.
Anyone who reads this can see clearly that im TRYING to be diplomatic about this (as much as one could in the situation) and I know that a bunch of you love Luffy and im not asking to change that at all, but I think someone close to him should have a "heart to heart" with him.... im sure he's angry, but really, about what.... the action that took place, or that his plan happened to HIM!!?? either way I dont care and just like other PK members are cooperating as well as us cooperating with PK....its over.
It is true that I think the war was too bloody and costly, WE (everyone BUT you) have agreed to this..... so whats the problem?? As I wrote to you, I am SORRY that this came to what it did, I was just stopping the same from happening to me, which I (and others) knew was inevidable.

I hope this explains my position to ALL.

-CJW

Re: What is the truth?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:48 pm
by Xepshunall
Hollywood wrote:HMMMM, ill guess that your gonna buy (with x's help) as many levi's as you can and then on a complete blindside do to me the very same thing, TAKE OUT ALL YOUR SOL'S?? seems right dosent it??, well I ask everyone here reading this, am I posing a threat to PK??, did I make any SILLY demands like "you need to leave the guild" or "you need to rename the guild" exactly like the the very same ones that you made to me after the last war?? is TMN or IMO attacking anybody from Pk??( I DONT THINK SO PAL.... NOT AT ALL!! as a matter of fact, TECHNICALLY if ANYONE reads your post that I have quoted above, it is YOU who is STILL the threatining one in this, not using thought for any other PK members other than yourself!! If you were to do this it would be out of rage without provocation, and not defence (as I did) which makes the act FAR worse than simply defending yourself.
Anyone who reads this can see clearly that im TRYING to be diplomatic about this (as much as one could in the situation) and I know that a bunch of you love Luffy and im not asking to change that at all, but I think someone close to him should have a "heart to heart" with him.... im sure he's angry, but really, about what.... the action that took place, or that his plan happened to HIM!!?? either way I dont care and just like other PK members are cooperating as well as us cooperating with PK....its over.
It is true that I think the war was too bloody and costly, WE (everyone BUT you) have agreed to this..... so whats the problem?? As I wrote to you, I am SORRY that this came to what it did, I was just stopping the same from happening to me, which I (and others) knew was inevidable.

I hope this explains my position to ALL.

-CJW


What is this supposed to be? A plea for Luffy to be the better man? He already is. And now that you mention it, I think it would be a good investment if I were to buy a few hundred dollars worth of credits and dish them out to your enemies so they could show you how they really feel about you. Your idea of diplomacy is to attempt to disarm your biggest fear and upon failure, claim naivety. Truth is that you can dish it out but can't take it. I'm certain that I can find enough Leviathan toting players with either a soft spot for Luffy or a strong distaste for your ways that some properly placed credits and gold would see your doom. As it stands, you offer excuses and pleas for mercy. Is that a man? Perhaps the audience that you address, begging for support of your foul words, would answer this question and show you how insincere that they know you to be.

Re: What is the truth?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:20 pm
by MAjesty
See! This is what happens!

Re: What is the truth?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:45 am
by Roileon
Xepshunall wrote:
Hollywood wrote:HMMMM, ill guess that your gonna buy (with x's help) as many levi's as you can and then on a complete blindside do to me the very same thing, TAKE OUT ALL YOUR SOL'S?? seems right dosent it??, well I ask everyone here reading this, am I posing a threat to PK??, did I make any SILLY demands like "you need to leave the guild" or "you need to rename the guild" exactly like the the very same ones that you made to me after the last war?? is TMN or IMO attacking anybody from Pk??( I DONT THINK SO PAL.... NOT AT ALL!! as a matter of fact, TECHNICALLY if ANYONE reads your post that I have quoted above, it is YOU who is STILL the threatining one in this, not using thought for any other PK members other than yourself!! If you were to do this it would be out of rage without provocation, and not defence (as I did) which makes the act FAR worse than simply defending yourself.
Anyone who reads this can see clearly that im TRYING to be diplomatic about this (as much as one could in the situation) and I know that a bunch of you love Luffy and im not asking to change that at all, but I think someone close to him should have a "heart to heart" with him.... im sure he's angry, but really, about what.... the action that took place, or that his plan happened to HIM!!?? either way I dont care and just like other PK members are cooperating as well as us cooperating with PK....its over.
It is true that I think the war was too bloody and costly, WE (everyone BUT you) have agreed to this..... so whats the problem?? As I wrote to you, I am SORRY that this came to what it did, I was just stopping the same from happening to me, which I (and others) knew was inevidable.

I hope this explains my position to ALL.

-CJW


What is this supposed to be? A plea for Luffy to be the better man? He already is. And now that you mention it, I think it would be a good investment if I were to buy a few hundred dollars worth of credits and dish them out to your enemies so they could show you how they really feel about you. Your idea of diplomacy is to attempt to disarm your biggest fear and upon failure, claim naivety. Truth is that you can dish it out but can't take it. I'm certain that I can find enough Leviathan toting players with either a soft spot for Luffy or a strong distaste for your ways that some properly placed credits and gold would see your doom. As it stands, you offer excuses and pleas for mercy. Is that a man? Perhaps the audience that you address, begging for support of your foul words, would answer this question and show you how insincere that they know you to be.

I don't think ur very informed about the Royal Navy wars because if you go back to the events, the unconditional surrender and peace terms, you will find that what you said wasn't in any of them. When jouga took control he made an Alliance with pk and he renamed the guild on his own terms to show that he was setting a new type of order and reform for TMN or rn soo go back and pay attention

Re: What is the truth?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:53 am
by MAjesty
A pirate walks into a bar. Bartender sez, I see you has a pegleg, what happened to the real one? Pirate says: "it was blown off by cannon in a battle with a English treasure boat." Bar tender says wow! And what about your hook? Pirate says: "Mutineers tried to take my ship.. I lost my hand, but they lost their lives." Bar tender says: "Wow and what about the eyepatch, what happened to your eye? Pirate says: "I looked to the sky and a seagull flew by and shat right in me eye" Bartender "You were blinded by a seagull? That's awfully random." Pirate says: "No matey, twas me first day with the hook."......Arrrrrrr

dis isn't actually my joke, but im a pirate, so ill take whatever i want.... now give your amusement! Or the jokes are gonna get worse.... lots, lots worse

Re: What is the truth?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:05 pm
by M0nkeydluffy
Ok..what will i do..hmm..actually at that time i was thinking of building. My own guild..u are accusing me of leading pk to war with tmn..? Pk ryt now is a shell of what it was..most are inactives. Any leader.Wouldnt go to war wuth that..also pk wasn't.At war with tmn..certain members did join the war but pk didnt.. pk was murdered. Unexpect edly in hes sleep..besides u shud know. How many inactives we had cos uve been plundering them..also ur spy isnt up to date..i said. Trigger finger comment about achilles cos he always beats me..also why use levis when ur winning? U use it only ad a last resort..and about xeph..hes the guardian of avonmora.. i wouldnt ask him to do such a thing..besides what are u afraid of? Just kip ur mindbars on and ul be fine..also pls make ur own topic cos this is xephs topic..ty

Re: What is the truth?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:43 pm
by Xepshunall
Roileon wrote:I don't think ur very informed about the Royal Navy wars because if you go back to the events, the unconditional surrender and peace terms, you will find that what you said wasn't in any of them. When jouga took control he made an Alliance with pk and he renamed the guild on his own terms to show that he was setting a new type of order and reform for TMN or rn soo go back and pay attention


Can someone explain to me what point Roilen was trying to make and with whom he was arguing?