same old stan

[Leo]

MAGA me this : annex/invade/conquer/persuade (however it gets done) a country of 40 million population. Make it your 51st state. That makes them citizens... with votes. So.... in which century will we see the next GOP president elected?

Well we can’t pretend everyone is a Democrat or Republican. Maybe we could get more independent votes and finally get Bernie in office. Or you probably have people who are more aligned with the libertine party. There is probably a mix of ideology like everywhere.

Justin Pierre James Trudeau aka prime minister black face himself has done enough damage as a far-left advocate no worries Canada is pretty sick of the far left as is


canada is about 67 percent in the middle .... of its political issues... throw in our issues and the center veers right our right was normally not so far right but the left has run so far left folks not moving on issues are automatically in our right-leaning section

Justine Trudeau is a liberal, not far left. His political stances line up pretty much with the moderate Democratic party minus his support of universal healthcare

[Dmanwuzhere]

Gender idealogy is not moderate left
speech being criminal is not moderate left
news being run by the government is not moderate left
freezing bank accounts of protestors is not moderate left
he is def far left in our America

in fact I would bet he's the most far left Canada has ever had except for his daddy


A growing number of Liberal members of parliament have been calling for Trudeau to step down as the prime minister's popularity continues to decline. Polling suggests that Trudeau would likely be swept out of power in the next election by the opposition Conservative Party. ^newsweek

[Leo]

In America maybe, but you have to account for the fact that America is much more conservative than the rest of the world for the most part. So far left here is moderate left or even moderate right in many other countries. I also don't think the things you just named equate to left or right, but more have to do with authoritarianism. I don't know anyone on the far left that supports government-run media or freezing bank accounts of protestors. In fact those would be considered fascist.

[Leo]

Farther left ≠ bigger government and farther right ≠ smaller government. One of the biggest misconceptions of modern politics and perhaps one of the reasons why the two sides have become so polarized. If you look for the right people there is tons of overlap between certain people on the left and right. Because there's more to politics than just left or right.

[Dmanwuzhere]

In America maybe, but you have to account for the fact that America is much more conservative than the rest of the world for the most part. So far left here is moderate left or even moderate right in many other countries. I also don't think the things you just named equate to left or right, but more have to do with authoritarianism. I don't know anyone on the far left that supports government-run media or freezing bank accounts of protestors. In fact those would be considered fascist.

rigggggght he's stepping down because Canadas left fully supports him
Hes a Temu Biden... has to be replaced so the left in Canada doesn't get obliterated in the voting booth


The far left is very fascist in America
believe as we do or we cancel you send the doj or have you audited utilize courts against you etc
and the far left has a government-run media which has been and continues to kill the media making other platforms and podcasts the most received news in America
They were attempting and pretty successful at forcing platforms to censure news as well which has made x and Rumble very big because they told the gov to go fook themselves

[Dmanwuzhere]

Farther left ≠ bigger government and farther right ≠ smaller government. One of the biggest misconceptions of modern politics and perhaps one of the reasons why the two sides have become so polarized. If you look for the right people there is tons of overlap between certain people on the left and right. Because there's more to politics than just left or right.

right its a misconception that as Trump cuts away to make govt smaller as a right-wing representative The left is losing their minds and fighting to stop it you're right my frigging lying eyes are just confused its really the other way around or not happening at all
dude you are going to need the MIB flash thingy to make that line stick

[Mack]

Farther left ≠ bigger government and farther right ≠ smaller government. One of the biggest misconceptions of modern politics and perhaps one of the reasons why the two sides have become so polarized. If you look for the right people there is tons of overlap between certain people on the left and right. Because there's more to politics than just left or right.

I don't think you have a clue.. One of the biggest misconceptions is that there is a left and right instead of the unlimited directions it can go

[Leo]

Farther left ≠ bigger government and farther right ≠ smaller government. One of the biggest misconceptions of modern politics and perhaps one of the reasons why the two sides have become so polarized. If you look for the right people there is tons of overlap between certain people on the left and right. Because there's more to politics than just left or right.

right its a misconception that as Trump cuts away to make govt smaller as a right-wing representative The left is losing their minds and fighting to stop it you're right my frigging lying eyes are just confused its really the other way around or not happening at all
dude you are going to need the MIB flash thingy to make that line stick

Don't confuse correlation with causation Dman. The left is angry with trump's dismantling of the government because they believe he is doing it to his own/Elon's benefit and not to the benefit of the American people. Only time will tell with that one of course. There is also yes a lot of censorship on the left but censorship is not in of itself a left wing thing. Take for example how anyone protesting Israel right now is shut down as being "pro hamas" or "pro-terrorism" and is having their education, occupation and even their citizenship threatened just because they exercised their right to free speech. Censorship is the tool of those in power to silence opposition. For a while the left was in power so yes they used censorship to shut down dissenting views. Now the pendulum swings the other way and the right uses censorship to shut down dissenting views. It goes both ways. Censorship is used to keep and grab power regardless of side. I can't support censorship from either side because it is just a tactic to silence us. Free speech h should be just that: free, regardless of political position. Protesting shouldn't get you disappeared or deported and expressing views against those in power is crucial for a free country.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Don't confuse correlation with causation Dman. The left is angry with trump's dismantling of the government because they believe he is doing it to his own/Elon's benefit and not to the benefit of the American people. Only time will tell with that one of course. There is also yes a lot of censorship on the left but censorship is not in of itself a left wing thing. Take for example how anyone protesting Israel right now is shut down as being "pro hamas" or "pro-terrorism" and is having their education, occupation and even their citizenship threatened just because they exercised their right to free speech. Censorship is the tool of those in power to silence opposition. For a while the left was in power so yes they used censorship to shut down dissenting views. Now the pendulum swings the other way and the right uses censorship to shut down dissenting views. It goes both ways. Censorship is used to keep and grab power regardless of side. I can't support censorship from either side because it is just a tactic to silence us. Free speech h should be just that: free, regardless of political position. Protesting shouldn't get you disappeared or deported and expressing views against those in power is crucial for a free country.

so explain to me how Trump and Elon are benefitting

as for the American people if a certain amount is reached in savings there will be a kickback in the form of a check

being labeled pro-Hamas because you support Hamas is not shutting you down its just calling you by what you are... how does that silence you... unless you go hide and cry... but that's your choice

not citizenship... If you protest in the form of violence and you are a visitor here on whatever application of temporary visitation... green card student visa etc... you broke the law you gotta go
Protesting is defined and is a protected action. Breaking the law is not an acceptable form of protest and is not protected... simple
I know I know protesting in its legal form is so vanilla ... you deserve the right to create physical harm physical damage and loot ...gtfoh

The right isn't censoring viewpoints they debate and debunk so that the lies you spread are ineffective... that's not censorship.

Again you run to protest.... don't be an immigrant and break the law and call it a protest because you will be protesting all the way away from these United States

[Leo]

Elon has dismantled numerous agencies that were previously investigating his companies. Conflict of interest? Meanwhile he has contracts with the federal government that make himself money. If he cared about actually saving Americans money his contracts would be the first to go, as well as missile money for Israel which most Americans don't support. Speaking of which, being anti-Israel doesn't make you pro Hamas or anti-Semitic, despite what the Israeli government and most politicians would like you to believe. Universities are expelling students just for protesting it. NOT violently. That is censorship. You could say "they're a private organization they can do whatever they want". Yes, but then the same should be said for social media companies that censor the right. The key is understanding there are bad people on all sides, which is why the whole idea of sides is so stupid. The vast majority of politicians are corrupt and the vast majority of bills proposed by them are to give them profit in some way