Sir Edward Pellew wrote:DezNutz wrote:Meliva wrote:Kinda funny moments before I post about how I can understand both sides, Dez posts about not supporting either.
I as well understand both sides, but I cannot in good conscious support either. On the one side I know that some attacks push the boundaries of being excessive, but on the other side I can't support actions that in the end promote the problem by not truly addressing it by doing the work for them and playing "mommy and daddy" instead of being a mentor.
Sorry Dez, if someone continually hits the new players in my guild because they dislike another player in it then damn straight I will come to their aid. To expect guild leaders to stand idol while so called pirates cast on their guild is absurd.. why do we have guilds if not to protect and stand up for eachother.
You all preach that we are doing it wrong by not teaching our members how to defend themselves, truth is many of us have and continue to do so, but knowing what to do and having the resources to do it when they are so green are two different things entirely. My personal reason for my involvement is not piracy, we need it and I am a strong advocate for it. My issue is with players like Dman casting on several new players in a guild who have done nothing and not even for the purpose to raid them and profit. His reason is because another player is in the guild. Don't like the player, take it up with him not the new generation of players we are trying to keep in this game. Or better yet take it up with the veterans of the guild who accepted the player you don't like... nope not one cast on me... oh right, i can defend myself and will return it ten fold, cant have that.
If it was for profit no problems here, but the purpose behind everything I am standing against was simply to hurt those close to a player he doesn't like and not even those able to stand toe to toe.. the little guy.
There has been no change in any of the spy reports. No change in the travel patterns. It takes no resources to change up trade patterns. It only takes turns to deposit gold in a bank instead of carrying around 15-20 million.
A hawker tail costs 8 turns and 10k gc plus a very small handful of resources.
It takes no resources except a little bit of effort to split your trade fleets up so they don't
ALL arrive 2 or 3 minutes before the top of the hour.
Very few if none of them have even done those very basic things.
None of them mix in an occasional war fleet into their trade routes Like Trix does. nothing pisses a raider off more than trying to be quick about a raid and losing a few battles because a 2 cap fleet with one trade ship was mixed in with the bulk trade fleets.
Sorry sir, that argument holds no water when the evidence shows none of them have done even those very basic things.
I know that guild leaders can only give the information and it is up to the players to either take it or ignore it. But the ones that ignore the advice seem to be the ones complaining....... if the advise was even given.
Phoenix himself admitted his default response was" you have to expect to get hit once in awhile as a trader. Accept and move on".
That type of response was the very reason I left Helm. I asked for advice, not help, advice after i was raided a few times. I had to go outside the so-called "training guild" to get it.
The point is very Valid sir, and the spy reports show it.
