Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Sebena » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:00 pm

Charles Vane wrote:For Clarity sake, this is not about witch doctors. This is about an account acting for the benefit of another and not their own.

If xPROx was casting as he is now and running 1 sloop then going around making the hits on his target even a mere 50% of the time this would be a lot different.


Simple facts, PRO gets a call, comes online to cast on the targets for those who called him, then logs off to go about his life. The ones who called, collect the gains through port actions without wasting their own turns to cast and walk away claiming it was all luck of opportunity.

Toxicity and Pushing at its finest gentlemen.



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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Banger » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:03 pm

Charles Vane wrote:For Clarity sake, this is not about witch doctors. This is about an account acting for the benefit of another and not their own.

If xPROx was casting as he is now and running 1 sloop then going around making the hits on his target even a mere 50% of the time this would be a lot different.


Simple facts, PRO gets a call, comes online to cast on the targets for those who called him, then logs off to go about his life. The ones who called, collect the gains through port actions without wasting their own turns to cast and walk away claiming it was all luck of opportunity.

Toxicity and Pushing at its finest gentlemen.


I am confused how this is any different from CrackedCubes? He got made that I was beating the living hell out of SSTG so he sold all his ships and then just randomly casts on me and others that are associated with me. He is doing nothing to benefit himself or the game. There is several players that cast like that on me on occasion and have no interest in playing the game or advancing their account.
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Vane » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:05 pm

Banger wrote:
Charles Vane wrote:For Clarity sake, this is not about witch doctors. This is about an account acting for the benefit of another and not their own.

If xPROx was casting as he is now and running 1 sloop then going around making the hits on his target even a mere 50% of the time this would be a lot different.


Simple facts, PRO gets a call, comes online to cast on the targets for those who called him, then logs off to go about his life. The ones who called, collect the gains through port actions without wasting their own turns to cast and walk away claiming it was all luck of opportunity.

Toxicity and Pushing at its finest gentlemen.


I am confused how this is any different from CrackedCubes? He got made that I was beating the living hell out of SSTG so he sold all his ships and then just randomly casts on me and others that are associated with me. He is doing nothing to benefit himself or the game. There is several players that cast like that on me on occasion and have no interest in playing the game or advancing their account.



What you talk of is retaliation, Cracked Cubes got satisfaction out of returning fire on you for your deeds. What PRO is doing is not his own retaliation it is either instigation or retaliation for others.
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Banger » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:08 pm

Charles Vane wrote:
Banger wrote:
Charles Vane wrote:For Clarity sake, this is not about witch doctors. This is about an account acting for the benefit of another and not their own.

If xPROx was casting as he is now and running 1 sloop then going around making the hits on his target even a mere 50% of the time this would be a lot different.


Simple facts, PRO gets a call, comes online to cast on the targets for those who called him, then logs off to go about his life. The ones who called, collect the gains through port actions without wasting their own turns to cast and walk away claiming it was all luck of opportunity.

Toxicity and Pushing at its finest gentlemen.


I am confused how this is any different from CrackedCubes? He got made that I was beating the living hell out of SSTG so he sold all his ships and then just randomly casts on me and others that are associated with me. He is doing nothing to benefit himself or the game. There is several players that cast like that on me on occasion and have no interest in playing the game or advancing their account.



What you talk of is retaliation, Cracked Cubes got satisfaction out of returning fire on you for your deeds. What PRO is doing is not his own retaliation it is either instigation or retaliation for others.


This is where you are wrong. He cast on Ravenlocke because a Ravenlocke member cast on his in an attempt to claim a bounty that was placed on Pro. He had motivation to retaliate. He didn't just get the bat symbol that he needed to come cast on someone. Its lunacy to think that VUDU can't handle its own business and you should know that better than anyone.
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby William one eye » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:08 pm

Charles Vane wrote:Simple facts, PRO gets a call, comes online to cast on the targets for those who called him, then logs off to go about his life. The ones who called, collect the gains through port actions without wasting their own turns to cast and walk away claiming it was all luck of opportunity.



Someone called pro to save 24 turns by not having to cast FFJ themself ?

I can see this happening if you got yourself in deep and need help from a friend that plays occasionaly.
Or maybe as you say not for themselves at all anymore, and I see your point. But that example is just silly.
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby OG Deadking » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:10 pm

William one eye wrote:
Charles Vane wrote:Simple facts, PRO gets a call, comes online to cast on the targets for those who called him, then logs off to go about his life. The ones who called, collect the gains through port actions without wasting their own turns to cast and walk away claiming it was all luck of opportunity.



Someone called pro to save 24 turns by not having to cast FFJ themself ?

I can see this happening if you got yourself in deep and need help from a friend that plays occasionaly.
Or maybe as you say not for themselves at all anymore, and I see your point. But that example is just silly.


does that make him a mercenary of sorts
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Vane » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:12 pm

I am in no way saying VUDU is too blame or directly involved. This I dont believe. xPROx may have acted out on one due to retaliation sure, but that does not change the rest of the attacks on all the other guilds and players for no benefit of his own.

Yes Will, among other reasons and to save / benefit in more ways than just 24 turns.
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Vane » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:13 pm

OG Deadking wrote:
William one eye wrote:
Charles Vane wrote:Simple facts, PRO gets a call, comes online to cast on the targets for those who called him, then logs off to go about his life. The ones who called, collect the gains through port actions without wasting their own turns to cast and walk away claiming it was all luck of opportunity.



Someone called pro to save 24 turns by not having to cast FFJ themself ?

I can see this happening if you got yourself in deep and need help from a friend that plays occasionaly.
Or maybe as you say not for themselves at all anymore, and I see your point. But that example is just silly.


does that make him a mercenary of sorts



Only if he acted in the name of profit or other gains to further advance his play.... which is not the case so no..
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Captain Jack » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:14 pm

I have not posted yet here as I am busy trying to find EXACTLY what it is all about. I am almost done now so soon I will post what needs to be posted, for the game integrity first and foremost.

Keep it calm till then.
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Sebena » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:14 pm

William one eye wrote:
Charles Vane wrote:Simple facts, PRO gets a call, comes online to cast on the targets for those who called him, then logs off to go about his life. The ones who called, collect the gains through port actions without wasting their own turns to cast and walk away claiming it was all luck of opportunity.



Someone called pro to save 24 turns by not having to cast FFJ themself ?

I can see this happening if you got yourself in deep and need help from a friend that plays occasionaly.
Or maybe as you say not for themselves at all anymore, and I see your point. But that example is just silly.



It's not about saving 24 turns. Black Sparrow is one of the oldest players and I am sure that he can win few wars on his own without anyones help. Probbably person using pro to cast is too scared to do the work himself so I will use him and just take gold coins and I can get away with it as I will show it as a opportunity and that is entire premise of this post using pro for these works and him not playing game to the fullest where he is just card and turns bank is aggainst rules and it is clasified as milking
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