UK official declaration of War

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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby sXs » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:22 pm

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Danik wrote:Not the same as planning to take it : I well recall upping influence in certain ports at certain times : not with any intent of actively stealing the port, but certainly hoping to benefit if a conflict between others caused their influence to drop and left it in our hands by default. On occasion it was to act a block to prevent another nation benefiting from any conflict. Thats port politics.


So 7 days ago they "start a discussion" which was "not the same as a vote" and a few days later they pump influence into that port. Not 1 person, but 2.

That is not a coordinated action in your mind Danik?


How much influence was pumped into the port? Couldn't have been too much.

I currently see about a whopping 4.9M total influence from the USA, which is still less than Spain , St. Kitts, and the Pirates. Let's not mention the UK's already existing influence. OH NOES. The less than 5M influence is going to uproot the 13M influence of Kitibari (that's actually pretty damn low for a port holding nation), must be an attack to take the port. Let me guess you put all your influence in one place? You don't buy influence in other ports to make it harder for conspiracy attacks to wipe your total influence.


For being the ones that seems to be speaking for an entire nation, it seems you have very little knowledge of what is actually happening. Or are you just spouting off in the forum trying to redirect and make USA the victim here.

USA influence was at 10 million in Baramas. If you didn't know that then maybe you should simply sit down and let those that do know something speak. Maybe it is time for the true leaders in USA to step forward instead of the mouthpiece.
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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby Shadowood » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:38 pm

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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby DezNutz » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:48 pm

Dmanwuzhere wrote:That total you quoted represents a sum that was reduced by half early this morning, but you knew that already. Funny one of those in Baramas has no influence showing in his own country but that's normal too I guess.


Right I knew that it was at whatever you said it was. Oh wait I didn't, but let's just continue with your crazy conspiracy theory, that the USA was behind the undercover attacks on the UK. And the proof that you use to support this claim is a purchase of influence and a discussion about Baramas being an opportune target due to its low influence that began after the UK gave up port ownership.

Let's take a further look into this. So DoS and RJ were the supposed perpatrators of the UK attacks and it was a big USA conspiracy to commit such attacks. Well let's look at the entire aspect. When the undercover attacks began, the UK wasn't the only port nation that was hit with BD and Conspiracy. Influence and population in several port nations to include St. Kitts, Spain, the UK, and USA were hit. So lets see what makes sense. So how do those nations fit into your conspiracy. The USA attack the other ports including their own? Someone else attacked the USA and the USA attacked all the others? Someone else attacked everyone except the USA which attacked the UK? A non-port owning group attacked everyone, then singled out the UK after complaints on the forum.

I'm willing to bet that it be the last one.

I do have another theory that makes as much sense as your theory does. The UK concocted this entire story, attacked multiple ports including their own in an effort to extort money out of the everyone. I doubt that but it could be true, as it does make sense if you think about it. I mean what better way to attack others without the whole of Avonmora coming down on you then to create an elaborate ruse of seeking justice for an attack that you yourself created.


Feniks wrote:For being the ones that seems to be speaking for an entire nation, it seems you have very little knowledge of what is actually happening. Or are you just spouting off in the forum trying to redirect and make USA the victim here.

USA influence was at 10 million in Baramas. If you didn't know that then maybe you should simply sit down and let those that do know something speak. Maybe it is time for the true leaders in USA to step forward instead of the mouthpiece.


What does that have anything to do with the UK. You aren't a member of the nation of Kiribati. Why do you care, if the USA players dumped 10M influence? The UK gave up port ownership and specifically said that the port was no longer associated with the UK. You can't fault another nation for seeing an opportunity when the port had and still only has 13M influence after owning it for near 2 weeks.

Do you think every nation in the game is retarded and is just going to sit and watch a port that is just asking to be taken? The USA didn't take the port and the fact that it was discussed means absolutely nothing to the UK's problems.
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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby Banger » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:54 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Dmanwuzhere wrote:That total you quoted represents a sum that was reduced by half early this morning, but you knew that already. Funny one of those in Baramas has no influence showing in his own country but that's normal too I guess.


Right I knew that it was at whatever you said it was. Oh wait I didn't, but let's just continue with your crazy conspiracy theory, that the USA was behind the undercover attacks on the UK. And the proof that you use to support this claim is a purchase of influence and a discussion about Baramas being an opportune target due to its low influence that began after the UK gave up port ownership.

Let's take a further look into this. So DoS and RJ were the supposed perpatrators of the UK attacks and it was a big USA conspiracy to commit such attacks. Well let's look at the entire aspect. When the undercover attacks began, the UK wasn't the only port nation that was hit with BD and Conspiracy. Influence and population in several port nations to include St. Kitts, Spain, the UK, and USA were hit. So lets see what makes sense. So how do those nations fit into your conspiracy. The USA attack the other ports including their own? Someone else attacked the USA and the USA attacked all the others? Someone else attacked everyone except the USA which attacked the UK? A non-port owning group attacked everyone, then singled out the UK after complaints on the forum.

I'm willing to bet that it be the last one.

I do have another theory that makes as much sense as your theory does. The UK concocted this entire story, attacked multiple ports including their own in an effort to extort money out of the everyone. I doubt that but it could be true, as it does make sense if you think about it. I mean what better way to attack others without the whole of Avonmora coming down on you then to create an elaborate ruse of seeking justice for an attack that you yourself created.


Feniks wrote:For being the ones that seems to be speaking for an entire nation, it seems you have very little knowledge of what is actually happening. Or are you just spouting off in the forum trying to redirect and make USA the victim here.

USA influence was at 10 million in Baramas. If you didn't know that then maybe you should simply sit down and let those that do know something speak. Maybe it is time for the true leaders in USA to step forward instead of the mouthpiece.


What does that have anything to do with the UK. You aren't a member of the nation of Kiribati. Why do you care, if the USA players dumped 10M influence? The UK gave up port ownership and specifically said that the port was no longer associated with the UK. You can't fault another nation for seeing an opportunity when the port had and still only has 13M influence after owning it for near 2 weeks.

Do you think every nation in the game is retarded and is just going to sit and watch a port that is just asking to be taken? The USA didn't take the port and the fact that it was discussed means absolutely nothing to the UK's problems.


At the end of the day Dez, all you are and all the US is is a bunch of hot air. You can poke holes in the story, you can propose your own theory but that doesn't make the US less guilty. You ever stop to think for a minute that your forum trolling bs only gets you so far? You can talk and talk and talk and try to play the whole press secretary role but it is falling on deaf ears. Dos changed his name to Mr. Trump, maybe you should change yours to Mr. Spicer because no one believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby Shadowood » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:56 pm

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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby DezNutz » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:05 pm

UMADBRO?

The only hot air is your own. If I'm Sean Spicer, than I guess you and the UK are CNN, creating your own facts and believing them.
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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby Banger » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:09 pm

DezNutz wrote:UMADBRO?

The only hot air is your own. If I'm Sean Spicer, than I guess you and the UK are CNN, creating your own facts and believing them.


Guess we will see how it plays out.
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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby Shadowood » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:09 pm

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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby sXs » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:10 pm

LOL first it was "we discussed it in council chat, but didn't vote on it"

Then it was "I only see 4.9 mill influence, that doesn't mean anything"

Now it is pointed out that it was around 10 million and you come back with more meaningless babble.

I made a promise to Kiribati that for 90 days I would help them maintain their port, much like the agreements St Kitts drafted with every nation it gifted ports. Hector said thank you but didn't ask for any help.

And as far as every nation getting hit....... tell me again how much the USA lost? How much did Tokelau lose and St Kittts?
98% of its' population like UK?

Conspiracy theories I got one. USA hits every nation including their own but the real focus was on UK in order to weaken them and possibly steal one of their ports. All conjecture, and probablt not true because heh what the hell..... the council didn't vote on it.

And USA is one to talk about skating on low influence.
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Re: UK official declaration of War

Postby DezNutz » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:17 pm

Feniks wrote:LOL first it was "we discussed it in council chat, but didn't vote on it"

Then it was "I only see 4.9 mill influence, that doesn't mean anything"

Now it is pointed out that it was around 10 million and you come back with more meaningless babble.

I made a promise to Kiribati that for 90 days I would help them maintain their port, much like the agreements St Kitts drafted with every nation it gifted ports. Hector said thank you but didn't ask for any help.

And as far as every nation getting hit....... tell me again how much the USA lost? How much did Tokelau lose and St Kittts?
98% of its' population.

Conspiracy theories I got one. USA hits every nation including their own but the real focus was on UK in order to weaken them and possibly steal one of their ports. All conjecture, and probablt not true because heh what the hell..... the council didn't vote on it.

And USA is one to talk about skating on low influence.


What I stated are facts. The US Council does not control what a player does with their own money on their own. It was discussed and no vote occurred. If DoS and RJ decided to put influence in that port, that is there choice. They can put influence in any port they want. That isn't a crime or necessarily an offence against another nation. It is certainly not an offense against a nation that isn't the port owner and expressly wrote that there is no connection between the UK and Kiribati. So the amount of influence is meaningless.
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