same old stan

[Lil Lola]

Lachlan..the authors of your article..this is not even their respective fields to be writing an article like this.

Francesco Chirico 1,✉, Jaime A Teixeira da Silva 2, Panagiotis Tsigaris 3, Khan Sharun 4
Author information
1 Department of Public Health, Post-graduate School of Occupational Medicine, Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, Rome, Italy
2 Independent Researcher, Kagawa-Ken, Japan
3 Department of Economics, Thompson Rivers University, Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
4 Division of Surgery, ICAR-Indian Veterinary Research Institute, Bareilly, Uttar Pradesh, India
✉ For correspondence: Prof Francesco Chirico, Via Umberto Cagni, 21 20162 Milano, Italy

number 4 and 3 yes probably, number 1 I would say is qualified and number 2 taking a quick look at what other papers he has helped with it is actually his area of expertise.

However what I sent is a literature review where the essentially look at other people's findings and summarize each study's reviews. The two less qualified individuals are listed last and second last meaning they contributed less to the study than the first 2.

Well occupational medicine is actually for work related injuries. Occupational Therapy has to do with your gross motor skills.
Independent researcher…too general..

[Lachlan]

Lachlan..the authors of your article..this is not even their respective fields to be writing an article like this.

Francesco Chirico 1,✉, Jaime A Teixeira da Silva 2, Panagiotis Tsigaris 3, Khan Sharun 4
Author information
1 Department of Public Health, Post-graduate School of Occupational Medicine, Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, Rome, Italy
2 Independent Researcher, Kagawa-Ken, Japan
3 Department of Economics, Thompson Rivers University, Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
4 Division of Surgery, ICAR-Indian Veterinary Research Institute, Bareilly, Uttar Pradesh, India
✉ For correspondence: Prof Francesco Chirico, Via Umberto Cagni, 21 20162 Milano, Italy

number 4 and 3 yes probably, number 1 I would say is qualified and number 2 taking a quick look at what other papers he has helped with it is actually his area of expertise.

However what I sent is a literature review where the essentially look at other people's findings and summarize each study's reviews. The two less qualified individuals are listed last and second last meaning they contributed less to the study than the first 2.

Well occupational medicine is actually for work related injuries. Occupational Therapy has to do with your gross motor skills.
Independent researcher…too general..

Independent researcher would not be his qualification and if you look at what that guy has published he publishes similar things sort of relating to Covid such as proteins and protein structure (mainly in plants though).
Occupational health would have had to deal with Covid and would be trained doctors at least at a GP level. My dad does occupational health mainly so I know this firsthand.
Regardless as I said this is not people conducting an experiment to study Covid patients but a literature review which as I have said before is essentially a bunch of people summarizing the studies out there at the time. Of course, it helps to have a specialist in the area like an epidemiologist, but technically as an example once I finish my degree I could do a literature review of anything vaguely psychology related like neurology, biology or genetics and I would still have enough knowledge that the literature review would be accurate and would have a decent chance of being published in a journal.

[Lachlan]

Dr Peter McCullough is one of the top five most-published medical researchers in the United States and editor of two medical journals.
He has received the vaccine, and I'm not sure if or how many boosters he has had. (he had to get it due to his job mandating it)
But he has developed medical regiments for both the unvaccinated and the vaccinated.
He currently works with persistent SARS-CoV-2 Spike proteins that could be causing problems in his and his patients' bodies.
Dr Peter McCullough won first place on Preprints.org for a study he co-authored on vaccine-induced myocarditis.

You tell me how a doctor who is a leading practising physician and has been for years was de-platformed from social media
and an attempt was made to smear his name to keep his concerns about the vaccine quiet is in any way fair.

See, when I think peer review, I don't think of people from unrelated fields rehashing WHO-approved messaging and data.
I think of dissenting and approving people who deal with the topic daily for a living, voicing their concerns and approval.

But suddenly, with a government-mandated, barely tested drug, only approval can be echoed.
That is a sure-fire way to get me and like-minded people to reject any part of it.

If I bought PG and asked for people to say what they think of me and deleted comments from those who had negative things to say
And banned them from forums while allowing those who like me to post approval how long would the game last

It's the same principle here

A frigging veterinarian has an approved voice over someone who has and is continuing to work with the problems of the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.
I find that hilarious and infuriating at the same time
Trust in the approved viewpoint is impossible for me when a debate among peers is disallowed.

I'm not going to claim to have any knowledge of this person so I won't discuss that since I don't know the facts for certain about him. What I will say though is that he promoted the use of Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid which does not really have any effect in fighting Covid. I also don't see him in the top 5 researchers in the US although he had published a lot of things.

What I will say though is that yes the major news outlets were pro vaccine. However when they heard of any fairly reputable or qualified person being against the vaccine they would focus a lot on that person. At times that extra attention even if negative though gives a person publicity and exposure which leads to more people following that person (whether right or wrong). I know Joe Rogan for example is not pro vaccine and some of the stuff in his podcasts are either wrong, misleading or only half right. As far as I'm aware sure he was popular before Covid but he became far more popular during and after Covid. The media likes to have sensationalist and dramatized news like that.
Also it isn't like there were no anti-vax news outlets.

Peter Mcullough didn't give two chits about being removed from social media or bad publicity.
I did for him.
Although he had healthy clients, he also took those with comorbidities who were at risk for taking the vaccine and at risk if they contracted COVID-19.
You parrot the mundane talking points of what works or doesn't based on what expert opinion?
Who was giving out the alternatives to test it to argue against them?
no one.
The medications he utilizes are part of an ongoing treatment that includes them but are not the sole agent for treatment.

https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2021/12/dr-peter-mccullough-povidone-iodine.html

The fact they were de-platforming people like Mcullough citing misinformation about something they themselves hadn't tried is laughable
The ironic part is there were no COVID-19 vaccine experts either

Mccullough is an expert on COVID-19 now, and he has plenty of patients to prove his method, but during the height of sales, he was an evil naysayer who needed to be silenced.
Now he is celebrated for his work.... imagine that

The link you sent me I read part of. Essentially what he is saying is clean your mouth and nose and you will get better faster. Everyone knows that. Just like washing or sanitizing your hands before eating is good for you and keeping clean will reduce your chances of getting sick. Good preventative measures of course but does not effect Covid once you get it.
I have no idea if his Spike detox thing works but a lot of plants, fruits etc have medicinal properties and have been used by indigenous populations in traditional medicines for thousands for years so I'm sure it helps in a minor way.
I would be careful relying on just that though. These "natural remedies" can help but in many cases is far less effective than traditional medicine. For example I saw one of the comments talking about a friend who got given an inhaler and cough pills for breathing problems. My sisters friend's mother had breathing problems as well and despite admitting the inhaler was far more effective and faster acting at helping her breathing she believed in natural herbal medicines and later died after she stopped breathing in her sleep.

Vaccines were never the endgame for treating Covid. I'm sure once even more research is done we will have more medicines to treat long Covid.

[Dmanwuzhere]

lol everyone knows this and that i love how you try to minimize the work of an actual elite while trying to be an elitist
you realize he kept those vaccinated and not.... alive .... with his treatments
the vaccine pushers said its the best thing ever, and as weak hearts and other vaccine-unfriendly body types dropped dead because there was no expert or testing needed, just a sweeping it's good for everybody, other people were set to clean up the mess

you couldn't come up with that formula on its schedule if every medicine were listed out of order and on a mixed up time table and no one else did either because dems and nations stood to profit everyone had to have it fook the deaths they needed every penny

It was pushed so hard, and everyone had COVID It was killing everyone .... the biker that ended up going underneath a tractor-trailer in a wreck... guess what killed him... yep right before the rig's tires smooshed him, COVID got him
The guy that shot himself with a shotgun,,, faster than hell, the covid beat the pumpkin ball to the mark

Swollen death rates and pumped-up saved lives rates aren't needed for any other vaccine
but you are so smart you could have come up with a regimen to save lives
but too dumb to see the scam


amazing

[Dmanwuzhere]

There was a bad flu year in the city and state where I was incarcerated, and they mandated flu shots.
Now, I wasn't aware the prison got extra federal funding ... then.
But I know there are very few medicines I will take.
A guard, when it was my turn walked me to medical explaining every one gets the shot.
Once there, I said nope, I don't want it. The doctor told the guard to hold me so the nurse could jab me.
The guard tried... I broke his nose, and as more guards arrived, I fought them until they beat my azz and took me to segregation aka the hole
and kept me there for two months.
Now I knew, and they knew, that neither the flu nor the flu vaccine was going to kill me.

I tell you this so that you understand the depths some people will go to when force is applied to medicines they did not want.
And the only reason we didn't have door-to-door shots like it was discussed was that I am not alone in reacting with violence
to forced medical subjugation or any unjust subjugation for that matter.

You can take 1000 jabs if you choose to do it. More power to you. But forcing it on others can end in death as well... I mean that.
You and those who want all the vax mRNA can have my share.
I'll stick to dying or killing to keep it away from me.

[Leo]

"I fear not the man that has taken 1000 jabs once, but I fear the man that has taken 1 jab 1000 times"

- Luce Bree

[Lachlan]

lol everyone knows this and that i love how you try to minimize the work of an actual elite while trying to be an elitist
you realize he kept those vaccinated and not.... alive .... with his treatments
the vaccine pushers said its the best thing ever, and as weak hearts and other vaccine-unfriendly body types dropped dead because there was no expert or testing needed, just a sweeping it's good for everybody, other people were set to clean up the mess

you couldn't come up with that formula on its schedule if every medicine were listed out of order and on a mixed up time table and no one else did either because dems and nations stood to profit everyone had to have it fook the deaths they needed every penny

It was pushed so hard, and everyone had COVID It was killing everyone .... the biker that ended up going underneath a tractor-trailer in a wreck... guess what killed him... yep right before the rig's tires smooshed him, COVID got him
The guy that shot himself with a shotgun,,, faster than hell, the covid beat the pumpkin ball to the mark

Swollen death rates and pumped-up saved lives rates aren't needed for any other vaccine
but you are so smart you could have come up with a regimen to save lives
but too dumb to see the scam


amazing

Most of what was there was essentially techniques to keep clean and reduce the amount of Covid particles in your nose, eyes etc. All I said was everyone knows to keep clean and sanitize and then doing that will of course be good for you. The only thing I saw that he was offering that is "new knowledge" was that medicine thing to help with the spike proteins from Covid. I said that could be effective or maybe not. I can't verify that for myself but indeed it could work.

Never said I could have come up with a way to fight Covid. lol

[Lachlan]

There was a bad flu year in the city and state where I was incarcerated, and they mandated flu shots.
Now, I wasn't aware the prison got extra federal funding ... then.
But I know there are very few medicines I will take.
A guard, when it was my turn walked me to medical explaining every one gets the shot.
Once there, I said nope, I don't want it. The doctor told the guard to hold me so the nurse could jab me.
The guard tried... I broke his nose, and as more guards arrived, I fought them until they beat my azz and took me to segregation aka the hole
and kept me there for two months.
Now I knew, and they knew, that neither the flu nor the flu vaccine was going to kill me.

I tell you this so that you understand the depths some people will go to when force is applied to medicines they did not want.
And the only reason we didn't have door-to-door shots like it was discussed was that I am not alone in reacting with violence
to forced medical subjugation or any unjust subjugation for that matter.

You can take 1000 jabs if you choose to do it. More power to you. But forcing it on others can end in death as well... I mean that.
You and those who want all the vax mRNA can have my share.
I'll stick to dying or killing to keep it away from me.

Yeah, we have been over this multiple times. I have said I never supported mandatory vaccinations. It is stupid to force someone to do something they don't want to do because then that just reinforces the concept in peoples mind that whatever they are being forced to do is bad. It's basic psychological knowledge but as I've said in the past, I think politicians nowadays lack any sense of long-term thinking or planning

[Dmanwuzhere]

you also said he uses drugs that are ineffective against covid then you say he basically just keeps the nose and mouth clean

so you are saying if people just brush their teeth and clean their nose there is no need for a vaccine

his regiment of treatment does not boil down to any one thing; it's a collective, and it works,
the idea that there is only one way and all others are wrong or lacking in efficiency goes against the American way... but then... you arent American

[Lachlan]

you also said he uses drugs that are ineffective against covid then you say he basically just keeps the nose and mouth clean

so you are saying if people just brush their teeth and clean their nose there is no need for a vaccine

his regiment of treatment does not boil down to any one thing; it's a collective, and it works,
the idea that there is only one way and all others are wrong or lacking in efficiency goes against the American way... but then... you arent American

Yeah no thats not what I said. I never said there was no need for a vaccine or that it was the vaccine way or no way. You are coming to conclusions about what I never remotely said. Just like you pulling that random study out of thin air and then blaming me for it.

Most of what you sent me was his solutions to effectively wash the nose, mouth and (I think) eyes. Then there was his anti-spike medicine thing. So the cleaning reduces the risk somewhat that you will get Covid and the spike medicine thing is for after you have Covid. Once Covid is inside you however and you are sick none of what he is saying to do will decrease the severity of the disease. It's all up to your immune system at that point to fight it.