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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby Vane » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:34 pm

Danik wrote:Sit and twist, vane : you are free to attack anyone you want, for any reason : same goes in reverse : However, I have a reason to attack you and yours, its called retaliation.


UK is not mine :D I am merely assisting them due to the cowardice being conducted towards them.


Your first moves are not even against me, but others within the guild! Thats the type of Hen Danik be ladies and gentlemen! :y
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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:36 pm

I see, so when you threaten individuals, guilds and nations to get your own way.. thats okay, but if others use the same terms of engagement, why.. what horrible folk they be.

You sowed, now you reap. Quit crying. You sound like TPK's twin brother.
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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby Vane » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:42 pm

Not at all crying, I am excited ;)

Many in Avonmora responded to my messages, they gave info and defended their innocence. Thus will be left alone. I had no intention or desire to attack those not involved. This served its purpose and brought information to me making the investigation much easier.

Now at least I know one attacker and can focus there.


I will also state, anyone found helping or supporting Danik will be subject to the same kindness he has bestowed upon the UK. I view this as a personal issue between Danik and I but everyone he wishes to attack is welcome to join me in returning the fire, now lets have some fun shall we :pirateflag
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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby DezNutz » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:44 pm

God of hate wrote:too much work to go through the logs boyo. I'll just tell you the names of UK citizens who did a coordinated attack on me way before I attacked the UK. Feniks, Banger, some guy with x in the beginning and end of his name, hmmm... it is easier to just click on the UK flag and you more or less have your list.


You fail to grasp what I was saying. You took the blame for the BD and Consp. attacks on the UK in your message telling Vane to stop targeting others. Both myself and Vane said you weren't the culprit, he based on his knowledge and me based on your responses. You were still adamant that you were the culprit and that the UK already knew because they attacked you. BD and Consp. are both undercover voodoo, so unless you showed the UK your voodoo log showing that you did cast or that you told someone that then ratted on you, they would not know for sure that you did it.

Additionally what I said was if you were the culprit as you say you are, their attacks on you would be retaliation. Your attacks to their attack would a continuation of your casting that you said you did. You contradict yourself. You can't seek retaliation unless you did nothing to provoke an attack from the UK.

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This is getting interesting. I'm glad I have stock in popcorn.

Please don't take this as taking sides on this Danik, but you aren't exactly innocent of bullying either.
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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:50 pm

Charles Vane wrote:Not at all crying, I am excited ;)

Many in Avonmora responded to my messages, they gave info and defended their innocence. Thus will be left alone. I had no intention or desire to attack those not involved. This served its purpose and brought information to me making the investigation much easier.

Now at least I know one attacker and can focus there.


I will also state, anyone found helping or supporting Danik will be subject to the same kindness he has bestowed upon the UK. I view this as a personal issue between Danik and I but everyone he wishes to attack is welcome to join me in returning the fire, now lets have some fun shall we :pirateflag


Re-writing history already? I have not attacked you, I have retaliated for your attack on me. You speak for your guild as guildmaster, you speak for the UK and present them as your reason d'etre for your actions : therefore I hold them equally responsible : not sure the UK want you creating new enemies for them, but I doubt they have much say in the matter, much like your guildmates : maybe they could have a vote on it, all democratic-like?

As it happens I have not attacked the Uk prior to this or since : ports and nation matter not to me these days : but I dont have to humbly write to you to plead my innocence, or ask your pardon, or your mercy : in plain english, go forth and fornicate.
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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby Shadowood » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:52 pm

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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:53 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Please don't take this as taking sides on this Danik, but you aren't exactly innocent of bullying either.


Ah yes, the USA.. how did all that start again? Bit of deja vu., no?
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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby Vane » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:53 pm

Aye they can vote but we are all still free to pursue our own fights as well.

I am fine keeping this solo and I have not dragged them in. However your attacks on them will most probably motivate them to join in...

What did you say recently... You sowed, now you reap?
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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby Banger » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:01 pm

Danik wrote:
Charles Vane wrote:Not at all crying, I am excited ;)

Many in Avonmora responded to my messages, they gave info and defended their innocence. Thus will be left alone. I had no intention or desire to attack those not involved. This served its purpose and brought information to me making the investigation much easier.

Now at least I know one attacker and can focus there.


I will also state, anyone found helping or supporting Danik will be subject to the same kindness he has bestowed upon the UK. I view this as a personal issue between Danik and I but everyone he wishes to attack is welcome to join me in returning the fire, now lets have some fun shall we :pirateflag


Re-writing history already? I have not attacked you, I have retaliated for your attack on me. You speak for your guild as guildmaster, you speak for the UK and present them as your reason d'etre for your actions : therefore I hold them equally responsible : not sure the UK want you creating new enemies for them, but I doubt they have much say in the matter, much like your guildmates : maybe they could have a vote on it, all democratic-like?

As it happens I have not attacked the Uk prior to this or since : ports and nation matter not to me these days : but I dont have to humbly write to you to plead my innocence, or ask your pardon, or your mercy : in plain english, go forth and fornicate.


The UK does as it wishes sir. Vane is merely a friend of the crown. He doesn't dictate terms. He tried and if we would have listened life probably would have been a lot better for us. He wanted us to stay a little one port nation but I aspire to greater things. I aspire to leave an indelible mark on Avonmora. We have grown and expanded. We have a good group of folks dedicated to making our nation great. I do agree with you on many points Danik. Attacks are going to happen. Nations are a money pit with no real benefit currently. Etc, etc... What Vane does, is what Vane does. I can assure you though, I enjoy doing what I do. And I could give two craps less whether whoever is attacking us black deaths the whole population in all three ports. It means nothing to me. I am going to continue to be the thorn in people's sides until there is no more powder to fire my cannons.

There is a tide of change coming. Avonmora has fallen quiet and safe long enough. It is time for the waters to be littered with flotsam and not even a howker be safe.
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Re: The Flying Gang [PIRAT]

Postby Ddp » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:41 pm

So, Vane has threatened collateral damage against innocent members of my guild. If he were acting in his own interests as a pirate, that would be one thing. Despicable, yet at least it's piratey. However, because he has publicized quite loudly that he is acting on behalf of and in the interests of the UK, I feel as if I should have the right to attack any UK member I want if Vane attacks me directly or causes me to be attacked (again, I might add, as I was attacked over the weekend). I'm a trader and live a quiet life on the seas. I don't have much in the way of an attack fleet. I know that I cannot do anything more than a mosquito's worth of damage to Vane should he turn his sights on me. However, I am quite certain that if I am provoked, I can find someone who is allergic to my little sting.

Vane, you have a target; one who has admitted to committing the acts you are so proudly defending the honor of the UK against. I would hope that those in power in the UK would put a leash on you and curtail your actions on their behalf. If there is intentional collateral damage towards members of my guild because you are acting like a petulant, spoiled child and bullying those weaker than you just because you can, then all of Avonmora will know that you have lied through what's left of your teeth and that you are not acting on behalf of the UK but are using it as an excuse to ransack your way through innocents who have no chance of retribution. You will likely have caused inexperienced players to leave the game, as recovery from this attack may feel nigh impossible and it would leave a general impression that the powerful players are bullies who pick on the weak, and no one wants to be a newer player under those circumstances in any game. So I call upon the strong and powerful in all the guilds and all the nations to decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong and act accordingly.
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