Wales, Nelson, Fox

[Bmw]

I, Captin Chalbooti.

Will have to ask you, the Nelson party.

To address me by my name.

Captin Chalbooti!

it says your name is Chaulbad

[ChaIbaud]

And if you search Dreadnort you won't find a game account.

[Admiral Nelson]

I, Captin Chalbooti.

Will have to ask you, the Nelson party.

To address me by my name.

Captin Chalbooti!

We, the Nelson party..

Say it is your true name, you have only forgotten it.

Like mine was Roberts, I hate to admit it.

But I do not want that kid anymore.

[ChaIbaud]

Chalbaud was my old name.

The better days.

Now, I am chalbooti,

Bolbi's sheep keeper!

[Juicypotato]

this is the second longest thread ive seen on the fourms

This is the first pointless thread ive seen on the forums, pure 12 years-old insults on Nelson and others.

The noob who has played longer than i have speaks! I promise not to take any more ships from a noob like yourself.

Do you by any chance know who del rio is?

[Ser Georges]

this is the second longest thread ive seen on the fourms

This is the first pointless thread ive seen on the forums, pure 12 years-old insults on Nelson and others.

The noob who has played longer than i have speaks! I promise not to take any more ships from a noob like yourself.

Do you by any chance know who del rio is?

I have said it once and i will repeat it again, i have made this account 4 years ago but only started playing on it 2 months ago.

Weird isnt it that you didnt hear about me for the past 4 years? So pls stfu about your accusations, thanks.

[William Pitt]

I, Captin Chalbooti.

Will have to ask you, the Nelson party.

To address me by my name.

Captin Chalbooti!

Two of you?...I mean us??I mean ughhhh

[ChaIbaud]

ser georges plz calm down. its ok ur a little mad that uve been attacked and lost your MoW but thats a material thing, brother. if u were enlightened like me u would know that marina is the place to store it haha u noob

[Roileon]

Summary of this Forum

As much as i try to avoid being involved in this fight between Juicy and Nelson, I am constantly brought into it.
So I hereby as King of Wales request one of 2 things.
Either:
1. Both Nelson and leader of FOX Juicy agree to stop attacking each other, and we can build a mutual peace.
There have been looses on both sides so there will be no requests for compensation.
Expect a calming period where residual attacks from the war will be expected. If such attacks happen, not retaliate, but instead notify the leader of opposite side so it can be taken care if.
2. If peace cannot be agreed upon, I wish this War to be separated from Wales.
This means that any other members besides Fox from Wales will not take part to this war.

As SCN told Bigtea, Fox and Wales is the same thing. He should be aware of that before become their King.

Wales and Fox will take the consequences if someone of yours break the peace. Things like placing a King in Helm wont be considered as strategies but as tricks to fool kids.

Since we are not kids, I do expect respect after all.

The peace wont be broken by this side. I hear by accept the peace.

Official Fox Statement

Fox is not, and never has been a nation guild. Fox is not responsible for the actions of Wales nor is Wales responsible for the actions of Fox. Any spy in Fox could easily report that none of our forums in any way relate to the squabble of nations.

Those who claim that Fox and Wales are equivalent, is using that only to justify aggression against non-combatants, and cannot be tolerated.

As Fox's Keeper of Traditions, Fox rejects the treaty in its current state.
Fox proposes the amendment: The Nelson Party agrees to not attack non-Fox members of Wales. The Nelson party retains the right to attack members of Fox.

Fox's counter-proposal is simple,
If SupremeLeaderJuicyP and Fox are your enemy, attack your enemy.

We desire no enemies. We accepted peace. We wont hit first. You are those that don't agree. What is that you are scared of? That your members wont honor the deal?

I'm really courious.

really courious.

courious.

courious

Loved it.

Roi your member Foxy, Walish Chauldumb keeps casting voodoo. Personally i do not really mind, but i keep record. I hope you do the same, i wouldnt like to hear excuses after like "you started it". I guess your citizens will realize eventualy how foxy you guys are. Its your King the only man i feel sorry for, cause he got drugged into your foxy tricks. I wonder what will happen if he stop respecting his citizens as you guys show disrespect to him by keep attacking us and friends of us. By nor respecting the peace he is trying to establish. I wonder if he will take your side after or he will be blind and use the excuse you started it. I already see a neggative score for your behalf. That was the only reason why you seperated Wales and Fox from this. This is the only reason why you picked a King from Helm. He may not be able to see this yet, or maybe he does. How can a nation of Pirates flurish? Stan gave you an advice but you seem to ignored him.

He is the king of a nation who can do a lot for him. He is also getting money back from what he used to help out. Sorry Colchian but it looks like you are lost haha

The first thing its nation is not doing for him is respecting him. You re making him look more like a papet than a King.. and then i'm the one lost. Its ok if Juicy running Wales behind the scene, but when you bring that infront of the scene you doom yourself. Money comes in and goes out, same with voodoo. What is left is the respect. And you are ruining the respect for your Guild, your nation and your King at the moment. I really wonder if Wales have a chance to grow. I really wonder if Fox will ever be respected. Dishonored people that dont keep their word. Thats what you are. You seem having a great fit in there Chauldumb. And then you say Nelson is bulling. You know except me, the whole Avonmora is reading these posts. I wonder how much they will take this time before everyone start hitting you again. Maybe they will wait this thing to knock their door once again, but again they might not do the same mistake again. You are a disgrace.

All the trolling aside that has been done all over this post.

Obviously fox doesn't want to attempt and have peace which is fine, i tried. But Fox doesn't want nelson to involve me, as i am not part of this war.
But then goes and attacks his friend, that is not part of this war.Which comes off a bit hypocritical.
Plus that person is in Helm, which we have peace with.

I usually go based on peoples actions and not what is said. I am a bit disappointed with Fox right now.

13 pages of silliness and one intelligent post where BigTea learns Roi is really the leader of Fox as it always has been and Juicy is the intelligent loose cannon he has always been. Although BigTea receives a national stipend each week for his services, I wonder how long it will take before he becomes disenchanted with insubordination and reckless endangerment of the Nation once so proud with Morningsun at the helm.

Maintaining a level of detachment between guild and national issues is not always easy and add to the fact the line gets blurry at times can make it even more difficult. Something I do not like but would be hesitant to change for reasons discussed in an
This guild/nation thing really does make for the most complicated politic and one of the most difficult parts of the game to grasp. Having good diplomatic/language skills is paramount to having a successful nation/guild. It is the counter weapon to the loose cannon.

Spain fought a National war against Barbados where Barbadians were spread across many guilds but primarily HELM and ATC and I believe there may have been some ZomB and Spain was composed of mainly Ayes and Zomb members yet Ayes maintained a NAP with HELM while doing so and HELM and ZomB had been in a state of war for months beforehand.
Careful use of the types of voodoo was one way to keep full out war from crossing into guild business.
Don't try to figure it out, It will drive you nuts.

Just know some people can be trusted even if they are your enemy and some cannot even if they are your friend. That is one learned of experience.

I'm not sure why I even posted this here but I guess it should be said that in Avonmora, rarely is anything transparent or black and white.

-Personal Comment: I'm Fox's Keeper of Traditions. I'm not in charge of anything beyond keeping up with the traditions and history of the guild. I only step in when it comes to matters of tradition and clarity. At the end of the day, I take orders from JuicyP, or whoever is the Master Pastry Chef King Fox at the time.

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Foxes that were Ex Zomb members, the most hatefull guild ever excisted in PG.

That's incorrect. The first guild in the game was PK and it has been created by me, Hellfire and light. Roileon was one of the first recruits and one of the first who later left to create his own guild called FoX. That was before I left PK and years before PK renamed to Zomb.

Juicy if I remember well, was a FoX since start and I think he never has been a ZomB either. I doubt FoX ever recruited ex-Zombs and if they did, this does not means much in my opinion.

Thanks for the info Sir, its obvious i lack in knowledge as well.

Juicy was in Zomb, as warrior as Ronnie, as many members of Fox were in Zomb and now continue their crimes from inside Fox.

All me Roberts wanted was to be left in peace so we build our future. But those guys are keep teasing us.

I left TGF and a buried treasure was casted to a new comer. I joined Aang voodoo is casted there. Roberts retaliate and they hit Lana. They dont leave us rest in peace. I guess its becouse when we first started we refussed to join them and they dont like rejection.

I actually want to clear this up right now. The Pirate Kings [PK] is the first guild (now The Pirate Kings [ZomB]. Later I left and made Fox as I was feeling pretty disgruntled by the leader who replaced the honorable Hellfire, his name was panda something. Made Fox and went to war with PK. Lost. So then Fox became a super peaceful guild as the oldest forums in the guild show, the rule was no wars. The guild was originally called RoiLeon's Pastry Shop. If you look at the names of certain ranks you can actually still see this our pastry ranks (head pastry chef, pastry warrior, pastry seller, etc.). Juicy was one of the original and by far the best. Later ZomB was created. At first ZomB and Fox were friends and fought PK. Then ZomB and Fox weren't friends and fought each other. Eventually ZomB beat PK and renamed PK to Zomb and Zomb to PK. Fox and ZomB continued to not be on good terms, we hated each other actually. Only recently, when Juicy became the guild leader of Fox, did Fox and ZomB relations begin to improve. I still have a strong distaste for ZomB and it's leader. Very strong. But here we are now, where history is trying to be told by those who were never there. Just kidding, insults aside, if you have any questions considering the history of pirates glory just message me. I kept very good records and remember a lot of it. At a point I wanted Fox to be a history keeping guild also so we have a forum dedicated to war history and another to game events history.
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All in all, Guluere sums it all up:

No wonder why old players don't talk much in the forums.

Yeah, it turns into a forum war. In looking at the number of post I've made (1200+ and counting), I've participated in enough to know they're useless; more awful than the actual war - They're just silly.

[ChaIbaud]

Sad to see I didn't make it on the big post B(