same old stan

[Mack]

How is it so hard to understand that the majority of Americans agree with Trump and the way he plans to handle this situation, it sucks for some people I know but they shouldn't have been taking advantage all of this time and it would be this bad but here we are

[Mack]

Hey, it's you folk who don't want to help : those starving neighbours kids you wrote about. I am just agreeing with you. Go home. Look after yourselves. You don't want the cost of being the Worlds Policeman? Then hand back the badge. Circle your wagons, build a wall, whistle Dixie! We no longer care. If we have to do stuff ourselves then we will. You don't get to decide what we will do. Whatever happened to that good old battlecry of 'Better dead than Red!' : now we have to bend the knee and 'survive' by handing over our futures to either the Mad Monk or the Tango Man?

So much for the Arsenal of Democracy, the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave : that light up upon that hill, thats the the Muskrats chainsaw gleaming in the white heat of the tech-bros coke pile.

You have sold your souls and pissed on your ancestors dreams : just go away and take your contagion with you.

look we trusted them for how long and look where we are it's time to adjust fire words are just that words they can be changed like they were many many times before, do you really think there is a one size fits all answer to anything this is not the Vietnam war this is not world war 2 this is not the Korean war this is different so it requires a different approach..

Personally, I have been ashamed of the way this country has operated for the past 30 years ever since I was able to realize what was going on. I have been calling for us to stand up like this since middle school. We need to stand up to China and Russia and Europe alike. None of them have our best interest in mind. We have to have our best interest in mind. We have to follow our cause

Back when my grandfather was young. This was a proud Nation. Now we're full of a bunch of transvestite fools

[Dmanwuzhere]

Dman and Mel, you two are confusing fighting for the country and fighting for the leader. There is nothing un-patriotic about despising the leader in charge, or refusing to fight a war for them that's designed to give them more power/money. Speaking of which, so many politicians are draft dodgers. So so many. And we still elect them into office and then fight in the wars they start. What a joke. Big difference between back when the country was founded and a war was literally fighting for freedom vs now where it's fighting so some billionaires can make more money off of oil or so we can interfere with some other country to prevent them from becoming communist. A true patriot knows that loving the country doesn't have to mean loving the government. I am surrounded by the notion of people hating America all the time and am somewhat annoyed by it, because it conflates the policy of the government with the country itself. Loving America is much more than about loving the system, it's about loving the people, the community, the beautiful land, the lakes and the oceans and beaches. There's nothing more patriotic than recognizing an imbalance in power and standing up against it. Well, that imbalance is here. It's been hear since the industrial revolution. Corruption is at a ridiculous level where corporate interest surpass the interests of public safety, public health and environmental well-being. I don't hate America, but if the rich want me to go fight in a war for them so that Exxon can secure more oil, I say no

Wrong, in a Constitutional Republic there is a vote held and even if the elected idiotic senile fool makes a law that all federal workers have to get a jab to benefit big pharma. (you were all for those billionaires and corruption. Remember?) You have to follow it or stand on your principles and lose that job.
He was elected you follow the law and vote differently 4 years later.
Suddenly you have all this supposed love for America but fook the leader you dislike. You can be drafted in the case you mentioned and support the framework that makes America or go to prison as a cowardly twit.

We pointed out all of Biden's errors and you were gung ho he's the man. Its so funny to watch you backtrack now.

If there were a war it would be Congress-approved and following the framework design you go fight for your country and pay your dues or you
are just a freeloading griping crybaby pos that's just what it is

[Leo]

How is it so hard to understand that the majority of Americans agree with Trump and the way he plans to handle this situation, it sucks for some people I know but they shouldn't have been taking advantage all of this time and it would be this bad but here we are

I never said Trump. I doubt wwIII will be because of him. I think whoever starts it people are not gonna be happy with them

[Leo]

Wars benefits no one but the rich, yet the rich never fight in them. Hmmmmm

[Dmanwuzhere]

Wars benefits no one but the rich, yet the rich never fight in them. Hmmmmm

The first name I thought of when I read that was Elvis, he was established with his music and acting when he joined the Army.
Maybe it's a Tennessee thing.
But I doubt it.
People from all walks of life join the military for various reasons every one of them self-serving and in turn serves the nation.
We have quite a few billionaire vets and loads of millionaire vets.

War benefits the coward but the cowards never fight in them hmmmmmmmm
war benefits entitled twits yet the entitled twits never fight in them hmmmmmmmmm

we can all make fortune cookie quotes and go hmmmmm its a lazy argument

[Leo]

How does death and destruction benefit us?

[Lil Lola]

Elvis was one of the few who served during the height of their career. Celebrities have served their countries sure but it is not until later they become rich and famous.

[Lil Lola]

How does death and destruction benefit us?

Maybe not look at it as death and destruction but the time before renewal. It’s a repetitive cycle.

[Meliva]

people don't wage wars just for poops and giggles Leo. Not usually anyway. There almost always tends to be some sort of motive or reason behind it. A common one is to take something from another group of people. Another is to enforce your will and values on others, such as religious wars or wars of differing cultures. Sometimes it's wars to get rid of an enemy who wishes you harm. There are benefits to wars. Less people mean less competition for resources, economies tend to do well for a while due to increased demand for certain materials and weapons. Hell, Rome literally almost never had peace, as war was a vital part of their economy-they kept expanding and conquering new lands. War's can also be to defend your home from invaders, or to invade a hostile neighbor who plans you harm.

Now, war is nasty but sometimes, it's needed either to claim more land to expand, defend your countries interests, etc. Though, there are stupid wars, or wars that are entirely selfish. A roman emperor once declared war on Poseidon and the sea for example. There was also a war over a bucket, and I believe a war almost erupted over a pig between America and either Canada or Britain. Maybe both.