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Re: the outback

Postby D00T » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:36 am

A lot of Covid death(at least here) are related to chronic diseases. If covid causes lowers your blood oxygen level and causes a heart attack, what kill you? Covid or the heart attack?

also hasn't us news been basically a clown show for the last two to three decades
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Re: the outback

Postby Mack » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:05 pm

i think there is a lot of confusion... i think most of us have covid over and over agian, so when you do have a problem it can be blamed on covid.. other than the news and people talk about fear i notice nothing different than past years related to colds and flu and what not idk.. a lot of old people in my area no one wears masks for two years and we are doing just fine
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Re: the outback

Postby D00T » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:19 pm

Mack wrote:i think there is a lot of confusion... i think most of us have covid over and over agian, so when you do have a problem it can be blamed on covid.. other than the news and people talk about fear i notice nothing different than past years related to colds and flu and what not idk.. a lot of old people in my area no one wears masks for two years and we are doing just fine

I legit can't tell if this is real or just bait.
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Re: the outback

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:19 pm

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Dmanwuzhere wrote:hey dummy i sent you to the fact check video it wasn't yours
so its your belief the edited video (edited as in shortened) where what she states in plain English is not telling people about 9k in monies for deceased family members who switch their cause of death to covid? lmmfao you are a retard

every death is signed off on by a legitimate doctor and if it does not say covid on it .... guess what..... it wasn't covid
but lets just say there was a case where a cause of death was erroneous there would be and is already a way to appeal and reverse it
but suddenly just for covid there is a 9k monetary bonus and a public video to tell you how..... that's not even a tad .... i dunno .... suspicious... nah of course not cause your liberal bat chit crazy

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if you couldn't find the rules to her and schumers legislation that includes the benefits going to undocumented immigrants aka illegal criminally forced citizens who have no right to our tax monies seeing as they don't pay taxes then you didn't want to find it :D :D :D

I also love that your last two links to debunk my less death theories are from very left leaning publications just makes it funnier to watch you go to town showing me the echo bubble you prefer :D :D :D

remember this guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKr-J9m2VN0 a doctor who was attacked because he said he would not slap a covid death cause on everything as some guidelines were sent out saying he should? nah? you probably never heard of him and during that time frame he was only 1 of a plethora of doctors who were not comfortable with what they felt was lying in effect to make any covid symptomatic patient who died a covid death despite it not being the true cause of death

and just for fun here's ya one to watch which hasn't been kicked off FB so ya know some folks are mad :D https://www.facebook.com/DrScottJensen/ ... 4880036376

just because a publication is left leaning or right leaning doesn't mean it is necessarily false. And I think you are confusing a person dying due to a disease unrelated to Covid, dying with Covid and a whole bunch of other chronic diseases and a person dying solely of Covid. A person dying of Covid is still a case and could be due to Covid. I'm sure though when this is all over and everything is checked and verified the number will be somewhat different. Additionally why would I go find some legislation for illegal imigrants in a country I don't live in so I'm not sure how finding that helps me. By edited I mean specific bits were cut to take it out of context. It would be like someone videoing a gamer talking about killing 15 people in one gaming session and editing bits out saying it was in a game. Then it would just be him talking about killing 15 people, that's what I mean. Besides when this started I was talking about GLOBAL covid cases to GLOBAL deaths due to Covid. Even if I believed you took out all the US cases from the world's cases, took out all the US deaths from the world dead the ratio from this is 2.15% death rate far larger than the supposed death rate of 0.4%. I'm going to stop talking about the US since you don't believe what I'm saying and I don't believe what your saying and we are going around in circles so I think I will leave it there. However my original point still stands. The death rate is much higher than 0.4 percent. That was all I was trying to get across. Poor countries also have poor healthcare and the number of Covid cases is likely under-reported as well as in big countries like India where getting testing kits to rural areas is really challenging


lol if you get in a wreck and are decapitated and it turns out you were positive for covid you become a covid death those standards boost the death count tremendously and the FB video utilized public information to prove a 40 percent mark up in covid deaths through that 1 health department.
and I personally don't care what the death rate is I refuse mandates that are not law to dictate my life or livelihood which at this point is what the numbers are trying to justify.
my immunity to covid (from catching it) is more powerful than a vaxxers immunity from being stuck yet the left would have me throw the better immunity out the window for a vaccine that doesn't work.... by doesn't work I mean you ever seen someone with the polio vaccine get polio,,,, no?... that's because that vaccine works. And it isn't 3 different vaccines with 4 boosters still not working lol
if you want to watch the whole speech since you don't like the edited version ... go find it and you can hear people asking how to change the cause of their loved ones death..... for 9k dollars because 9k dollars and a greedy family member knows more than what the doctor who filled out a death certificate did
the point of the illegals getting access to those monies is to show more ways the system is going to be robbed
lol and its going to be online this is a dem money leak and a teat for those who are going to abuse it
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Re: the outback

Postby sXs » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:02 pm

Back in March, I pulled the Covid data from the CDC website. It is still available. A full 86% of deaths attributed to covid, listed a comorbidity. Meaning there was either an underlying condition or Covid was detected no matter the cause of death.

This is very strange. If you look at the flu deaths data also from CDC prior to covid, very few listed comorbidity. Less than 5%. Same with heart disease, cancer, and so on.
Covid is the only instance where this occurs. Why is that? Dmans illustration above explains it. Hospitals and municipalities were given financial aid by the government based on the number of confirmed covid deaths they each had. This is fact checked and was part of the CARES Act package passed and signed into law March 27, 2020. The only requirement was that covid be listed as cause of death or a contributing factor.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CARES_Act
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/covid-19.htm
https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-it-s-complicated

This is exactly why someone that died in a motorcycle accident was listed as a covid death. Conservative estimates in the US are 40% inflation of the actual covid death rate.

I say all this as someone who has been vaccinated and believe Covid is a big issue, but I also believe this has been overinflated. I believe vaccine mandates are a form of government control and people should decide for themselves based on advice from their own doctors.
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Re: the outback

Postby D00T » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:09 pm

Ah shit, 40% of us cases are faked, that brings the global death rate down to…

1.9%

(4777125-710,757+426454.2(710,757x0.6))/233,479,613

Man people talking about the vaccine as if it’s some sort of poison it’s literally just a day of arm ache and headaches that can be solved with painkillers.
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Re: the outback

Postby sXs » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:58 pm

D00T wrote:Ah shit, 40% of us cases are faked, that brings the global death rate down to…

1.9%

(4777125-710,757+426454.2(710,757x0.6))/233,479,613

Man people talking about the vaccine as if it’s some sort of poison it’s literally just a day of arm ache and headaches that can be solved with painkillers.


Obviously, you missed part of my comment. You may want to re-read it.
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Re: the outback

Postby D00T » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:14 am

sXs wrote:
D00T wrote:Ah shit, 40% of us cases are faked, that brings the global death rate down to…

1.9%

(4777125-710,757+426454.2(710,757x0.6))/233,479,613

Man people talking about the vaccine as if it’s some sort of poison it’s literally just a day of arm ache and headaches that can be solved with painkillers.


Obviously, you missed part of my comment. You may want to re-read it.

The government control or the doctor’s advice?

You don’t see people going to their doctors for advice on whether or not to take the flu or tetanus shot.
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Re: the outback

Postby DezNutz » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:22 am

D00T wrote:The government control or the doctor’s advice?

You don’t see people going to their doctors for advice on whether or not to take the flu or tetanus shot.


Where are you from? It is very common in the USA for people to seek advice from their doctor about getting the flu shot. Most healthy adults don't just go and get the flu shot or tetanus shot just because.
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Re: the outback

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:36 am

D00T wrote:Ah shit, 40% of us cases are faked, that brings the global death rate down to…

1.9%

(4777125-710,757+426454.2(710,757x0.6))/233,479,613

Man people talking about the vaccine as if it’s some sort of poison it’s literally just a day of arm ache and headaches that can be solved with painkillers.


man people talking about the vaccine like bell palsey, strokes, blood clots to the brain and a myriad of other reactions are just arm and headaches and not poison to some people.....
the vaccine is not a procedure to be discussed and forced by politicians it is a medical issue between a doctor and a patient or a persons choice in general
you want it? you get it.... you don't then don't but lets not pretend politicians with paid doctors issuing mandates for all serves individuals with their health in mind because then you just sound stupid and insincere
any medication given by a company that has no responsibility for the negative effects caused by its product is not worth taking.... to me .... you do what you want or what your doctor advises but if you ask me which arm I want the jab in ill just point at yours ... you can have mine .... lol I care that much about ya :D :D :D

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