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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby Meliva » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:39 pm

Ramen noodles wrote:Lets switch topics. What do you guys think about Tumblr's new gender list (top)?


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I find it both sad and hilarious some people would believe there are that many genders,
honestly all those symbols remind me of the unknown in pokemon. or crop circles.
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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby Maha » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:41 pm

it's a long read, highly recommended for those who want to discuss this topic with more than gut-based opinions.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publicati ... and-gender
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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby Meliva » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:58 pm

Maha wrote:it's a long read, highly recommended for those who want to discuss this topic with more than gut-based opinions.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publicati ... and-gender


I checked it out. was interesting. but it didn't convince me that there are over a dozen bloody genders.
there is male and female. and I am willing to believe some people due to hormones or some other twist of fate end up having a male body, but identify as female and vice versa, and I suppose you can call them transgender and make it a third gender. but i don't believe there are over a dozen different genders simply because some people "say" they identify as that gender.
if i said i believed myself to be quadgender , that DOESNT mean there is such a thing as quadgender. a LOT of these "genders" on that list could be lumped together due to how similar they are.
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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby DezNutz » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:20 pm

Meliva wrote:
Maha wrote:it's a long read, highly recommended for those who want to discuss this topic with more than gut-based opinions.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publicati ... and-gender


I checked it out. was interesting. but it didn't convince me that there are over a dozen bloody genders.
there is male and female. and I am willing to believe some people due to hormones or some other twist of fate end up having a male body, but identify as female and vice versa, and I suppose you can call them transgender and make it a third gender. but i don't believe there are over a dozen different genders simply because some people "say" they identify as that gender.
if i said i believed myself to be quadgender , that DOESNT mean there is such a thing as quadgender. a LOT of these "genders" on that list could be lumped together due to how similar they are.

Male and Female are the only genders. Feeling something other than your chromosomal makeup is not a gender. For those that are genetically both (XXY), they are medically considered male.
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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby Bmw » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:22 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Meliva wrote:
Maha wrote:it's a long read, highly recommended for those who want to discuss this topic with more than gut-based opinions.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publicati ... and-gender


I checked it out. was interesting. but it didn't convince me that there are over a dozen bloody genders.
there is male and female. and I am willing to believe some people due to hormones or some other twist of fate end up having a male body, but identify as female and vice versa, and I suppose you can call them transgender and make it a third gender. but i don't believe there are over a dozen different genders simply because some people "say" they identify as that gender.
if i said i believed myself to be quadgender , that DOESNT mean there is such a thing as quadgender. a LOT of these "genders" on that list could be lumped together due to how similar they are.

Male and Female are the only genders. Feeling something other than your chromosomal makeup is not a gender. For those that are genetically both (XXY), they are medically considered male.


you are correct
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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby Meliva » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:29 pm

perhaps I am mistaken, but isn't your chromosomes what determines your sex? not your gender. while the 2 are often the same there are instances they are different. and there also a few other chromosome disorders, but they all of which are rare and uncommon. I like to think I am fairly open minded, so I am willing to listen to people who argue there are more then 2 genders. personally, I believe there are 2 main genders, with a small portion being neither. hermaphrodites and the like. but I am positive that the amount of genders SJW's believe in are ludicrous.
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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby Maha » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:31 pm

Meliva wrote:
Maha wrote:it's a long read, highly recommended for those who want to discuss this topic with more than gut-based opinions.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publicati ... and-gender


I checked it out. was interesting. but it didn't convince me that there are over a dozen bloody genders.


correct it doesn't say that.
did you continue to read? the second page gives a executive summery.
the following is an extract from part three:
http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/part-three-gender-identity-sexuality-and-gender wrote:Part Three: Gender Identity
Lawrence S. Mayer, Paul R. McHugh

The concept of biological sex is well defined, based on the binary roles that males and females play in reproduction. By contrast, the concept of gender is not well defined. It is generally taken to refer to behaviors and psychological attributes that tend to be typical of a given sex. Some individuals identify as a gender that does not correspond to their biological sex. The causes of such cross-gender identification remain poorly understood. Research investigating whether these transgender individuals have certain physiological features or experiences in common with the opposite sex, such as brain structures or atypical prenatal hormone exposures, has so far been inconclusive. Gender dysphoria — a sense of incongruence between one’s biological sex and one’s gender, accompanied by clinically significant distress or impairment — is sometimes treated in adults by hormones or surgery, but there is little scientific evidence that these therapeutic interventions have psychological benefits. Science has shown that gender identity issues in children usually do not persist into adolescence or adulthood, and there is little scientific evidence for the therapeutic value of puberty-delaying treatments.
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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby Bmw » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:33 pm

Maha wrote:
Meliva wrote:
Maha wrote:it's a long read, highly recommended for those who want to discuss this topic with more than gut-based opinions.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publicati ... and-gender


I checked it out. was interesting. but it didn't convince me that there are over a dozen bloody genders.


correct it doesn't say that.
did you continue to read? the second page gives a executive summery.
the following is an extract from part three:
http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/part-three-gender-identity-sexuality-and-gender wrote:Part Three: Gender Identity
Lawrence S. Mayer, Paul R. McHugh

The concept of biological sex is well defined, based on the binary roles that males and females play in reproduction. By contrast, the concept of gender is not well defined. It is generally taken to refer to behaviors and psychological attributes that tend to be typical of a given sex. Some individuals identify as a gender that does not correspond to their biological sex. The causes of such cross-gender identification remain poorly understood. Research investigating whether these transgender individuals have certain physiological features or experiences in common with the opposite sex, such as brain structures or atypical prenatal hormone exposures, has so far been inconclusive. Gender dysphoria — a sense of incongruence between one’s biological sex and one’s gender, accompanied by clinically significant distress or impairment — is sometimes treated in adults by hormones or surgery, but there is little scientific evidence that these therapeutic interventions have psychological benefits. Science has shown that gender identity issues in children usually do not persist into adolescence or adulthood, and there is little scientific evidence for the therapeutic value of puberty-delaying treatments.


still not a reason to make up a ton of diffrent gender types any say there real genders there's only three male female and attack helicopter
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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby Meliva » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:37 pm

Maha wrote:
Meliva wrote:
Maha wrote:it's a long read, highly recommended for those who want to discuss this topic with more than gut-based opinions.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publicati ... and-gender


I checked it out. was interesting. but it didn't convince me that there are over a dozen bloody genders.


correct it doesn't say that.
did you continue to read? the second page gives a executive summery.
the following is an extract from part three:
http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/part-three-gender-identity-sexuality-and-gender wrote:Part Three: Gender Identity
Lawrence S. Mayer, Paul R. McHugh

The concept of biological sex is well defined, based on the binary roles that males and females play in reproduction. By contrast, the concept of gender is not well defined. It is generally taken to refer to behaviors and psychological attributes that tend to be typical of a given sex. Some individuals identify as a gender that does not correspond to their biological sex. The causes of such cross-gender identification remain poorly understood. Research investigating whether these transgender individuals have certain physiological features or experiences in common with the opposite sex, such as brain structures or atypical prenatal hormone exposures, has so far been inconclusive. Gender dysphoria — a sense of incongruence between one’s biological sex and one’s gender, accompanied by clinically significant distress or impairment — is sometimes treated in adults by hormones or surgery, but there is little scientific evidence that these therapeutic interventions have psychological benefits. Science has shown that gender identity issues in children usually do not persist into adolescence or adulthood, and there is little scientific evidence for the therapeutic value of puberty-delaying treatments.

ah, then I believe I misunderstood your intent on providing that link. I thought you were trying to say that the list of genders was legitimate. I also admit I did a poor job of reading. I merely read the preface, due to being rather sleepy at the moment, I didn't realize there was more. :lol: I might read it when I'm more awake and have free time.
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Re: Message to Chin Chin and Now Everything Else In LIFE

Postby Bmw » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:50 pm

200th post lol
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