(Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

[Mack]

I mean he'll we have Isis training camps here what's up with that crazy crap

[Donald Trump]

Jamaat ul-fuqra is not an ISIS group. Instead, very similar. But they do not usually target Americans, or have any specific goal to harm them. It is more against other Muslims or Hindus.


They are listed as terrorists.


There are no ISIS training groups in the USA.

[Mack]

I would argue you're wrong To the end although neither of us have proof

There are people claiming Isis all over the United States a lot of them are even military units if you think they're not trying to be organized I don't know what to tell you
I know I sound crazy but that's what these people are it's going to sound crazy

[Maha]

Has anyone ever suspected the idea that some of these shootings are staged to try and convince the general populace we need to abolish guns

hmm, how would I stage such an event?

the objective: a series of horrible massacres on children and teenagers that will bring a nationwide outcry to ban guns.


what is needed:
soft locations with lots of innocent people
access to triggerhappy fools who are easily manipulated to start a killing spree
absolute deniability that these fools were manipulated by the no-gun crew

how to identify those trigger happy fools, how to supply them with the grudge, the weapon and the mindset that is needed in such a way that no-one will be able to link "me" or "us" to those shooters? (this is needed otherwise there is no complot theory )

a 'profile' of those potential fools needs to be made or obtained
a nation wide database to scan for a profile match is needed
possible matches need to be observed and scrutinized to see if, how and where the can be exploited.
contact has to be made to start the manipulation process that will lead to a mass shooting. (again, this is needed for a complot theory!)
all unwilling candidates need to be silenced to maintain total obscurity.

so at least we need people with the following skill sets: a psychologist trained in profiling, a data analist, a private investigator, a manipulator and a killer.
true the profile and may be even a ready made database can be bought on the dark net but the need for a killer, a manipulator and a P.I. are imo a 'must have'. and these people must strongly buy in with the anti gun ideology to be safely used or be paid off.

now "to stage" this by a lobby group, this cannot be the work of just a nut-cracking member of that group who happens to have the finances, the contacts and the skills to move this plan to stage killing sprees all over the USA until all guns are abolished. (if it was a psychopath loner, the lobbygroup can not be held responsible!) For a real complot theory some levelheaded bigshots have to have a meeting where they propose this as a strategy, agree to it and activate it. all without one whistle blower who gets cold feet or a consciousness attack among them.

all this staging has to withstand police investigation. the police will look into the past of the shooter and ask how this could happen, why the grudge ended in a shooting.
the above cannot stay hidden when it's been done multiple times (staged events, right). so the logical conclusion is that 'staged events' are utterly nonsense or that the government (with all her layers and diverse organizations) is behind it and aiding in a huge cover up. again with no whistles blown.

[Donald Trump]

Has anyone ever suspected the idea that some of these shootings are staged to try and convince the general populace we need to abolish guns

hmm, how would I stage such an event?

the objective: a series of horrible massacres on children and teenagers that will bring a nationwide outcry to ban guns.


what is needed:
soft locations with lots of innocent people
access to triggerhappy fools who are easily manipulated to start a killing spree
absolute deniability that these fools were manipulated by the no-gun crew

how to identify those trigger happy fools, how to supply them with the grudge, the weapon and the mindset that is needed in such a way that no-one will be able to link "me" or "us" to those shooters? (this is needed otherwise there is no complot theory )


a 'profile' of those potential fools needs to be made or obtained
a nation wide database to scan for a profile match is needed
possible matches need to be observed and scrutinized to see if, how and where the can be exploited.
contact has to be made to start the manipulation process that will lead to a mass shooting. (again, this is needed for a complot theory!)
all unwilling candidates need to be silenced to maintain total obscurity.

so at least we need people with the following skill sets: a psychologist trained in profiling, a data analist, a private investigator, a manipulator and a killer.
true the profile and may be even a ready made database can be bought on the dark net but the need for a killer, a manipulator and a P.I. are imo a 'must have'. and these people must strongly buy in with the anti gun ideology to be safely used or be paid off.

now "to stage" this by a lobby group, this cannot be the work of just a nut-cracking member of that group who happens to have the finances, the contacts and the skills to move this plan to stage killing sprees all over the USA until all guns are abolished. (if it was a psychopath loner, the lobbygroup can not be held responsible!) For a real complot theory some levelheaded bigshots have to have a meeting where they propose this as a strategy, agree to it and activate it. all without one whistle blower who gets cold feet or a consciousness attack among them.

all this staging has to withstand police investigation. the police will look into the past of the shooter and ask how this could happen, why the grudge ended in a shooting.
the above cannot stay hidden when it's been done multiple times (staged events, right). so the logical conclusion is that 'staged events' are utterly nonsense or that the government (with all her layers and diverse organizations) is behind it and aiding in a huge cover up. again with no whistles blown.

x374 times or around that per year.

[Mack]

Has anyone ever suspected the idea that some of these shootings are staged to try and convince the general populace we need to abolish guns

hmm, how would I stage such an event?

the objective: a series of horrible massacres on children and teenagers that will bring a nationwide outcry to ban guns.


what is needed:
soft locations with lots of innocent people
access to triggerhappy fools who are easily manipulated to start a killing spree
absolute deniability that these fools were manipulated by the no-gun crew

how to identify those trigger happy fools, how to supply them with the grudge, the weapon and the mindset that is needed in such a way that no-one will be able to link "me" or "us" to those shooters? (this is needed otherwise there is no complot theory )

a 'profile' of those potential fools needs to be made or obtained
a nation wide database to scan for a profile match is needed
possible matches need to be observed and scrutinized to see if, how and where the can be exploited.
contact has to be made to start the manipulation process that will lead to a mass shooting. (again, this is needed for a complot theory!)
all unwilling candidates need to be silenced to maintain total obscurity.

so at least we need people with the following skill sets: a psychologist trained in profiling, a data analist, a private investigator, a manipulator and a killer.
true the profile and may be even a ready made database can be bought on the dark net but the need for a killer, a manipulator and a P.I. are imo a 'must have'. and these people must strongly buy in with the anti gun ideology to be safely used or be paid off.

now "to stage" this by a lobby group, this cannot be the work of just a nut-cracking member of that group who happens to have the finances, the contacts and the skills to move this plan to stage killing sprees all over the USA until all guns are abolished. (if it was a psychopath loner, the lobbygroup can not be held responsible!) For a real complot theory some levelheaded bigshots have to have a meeting where they propose this as a strategy, agree to it and activate it. all without one whistle blower who gets cold feet or a consciousness attack among them.

all this staging has to withstand police investigation. the police will look into the past of the shooter and ask how this could happen, why the grudge ended in a shooting.
the above cannot stay hidden when it's been done multiple times (staged events, right). so the logical conclusion is that 'staged events' are utterly nonsense or that the government (with all her layers and diverse organizations) is behind it and aiding in a huge cover up. again with no whistles blown.

i really appreciate the intelligent response. That's exactly what I believe there are many government people that are for this gun ban in my mind in order to control the populace..
I think there are whistleblowers among them that's how some information leaks money and fear does a lot of things to people. I definitely believe there's more than just taking guns away To the idea

[Most Lee Harmless]

It doesnt need to be a rational conspiracy theory, or even have any logic behind it : what a 'good' conspiracy does is appeal to the fear within and give credence to that fear : thus if your fear is 'they are going to take away our guns' then any explanation for a random event can be turned to give that credence : it allows you to take events which would otherwise aid the argument to take away guns and turn them into a 'conspiracy' by your opponents to create the events themselves to discredit your cause. It doesnt matter that there is no move to 'take away your guns' : every move to impose any control of any kind, no matter how minimal, is part of the plot to 'take away our guns'. No doubt some genius is working out all the convolutions necessary to prove that Mcdonalds Happy Meals are also part of this plot, after all, they have never denied it!

[Mack]

Yeah thats how fear works... but i look at real life

[Grogggy]

Ok so lets cut to the chase. We have a Sandy Hook denier in our midest.

There are two ways to look at this.

1) Way down deep inside he's a gun nut who feels guilty about the masacre of tiny school kids, and thus has to find a psychological crutch to relieve the inner tension.

2) He is delighting in the shock value of such a claim, a in-your-face viceral reaction to people in his own life who have questioned his sanity and gun loving ways.

Either way, its really his problem. How as a society we survive in a post fact world, not so sure!

Ignorance kills more people every year than hammers and guns put together:)

To these post truthers, I usually use wikipedia. I know its not technically wikileaks, but I figure it they take that crap for gospel, they have to accept wiki entries.

I think here is all the sandy hook garbage you could want w/ debunking facts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hoo ... y_theories

Sad that this thinking sails the seven seas with us, but at least its brought Danik and I closer together, a regular putin/trump bromance!!!

Lets send Mack to the middle east...

[Donald Trump]

Hence, "Welcome to the forums, where ignorance is a choice and people still choose ignorance"