Hey Hammer of Clown Shoes

[PhoenixKnight]

The message prior to that was 2 days ago and he was saying he will contact me to ask about Islam later.
Didn’t think it was relevant

[Dmanwuzhere]

You are not just dealing with one nation or one guild anymore. You are dealing with nearly all Avonmora. All nations and guilds involved by the representatives of TKP are backing us up 100%.


Proof your guild is acting on the interest of nations and guilds.
You could have asked and received permission to post it the fact you didnt proves your lack of honor.

[Vane]

Only words i have on this...

Banger read your first post, then point two in the last one..

Dman made the first threat on ports, if he wishes that route we will oblige. Otherwise our direction has no port or nation involved. We were once called out to act so we will. A thread by VUDU was created calling out avonmora players to hit back, or come together and hit back. You all supported it, we agreed. So lets keep the fight where it is supposed to be and not involve ports or nations.

[Banger]

The message prior to that was 2 days ago and he was saying he will contact me to ask about Islam later.
Didn’t think it was relevant

This isn't true PK, I am looking at the whole exchange around this message right now. You responded to this and dman responded again. Your response to this initial message gives context to why you think this is justifiable. Don't bullshit a bullshitter.

[sXs]

PhoenixKnight, I hope you had dmans permission to post that.......

[Banger]

Only words i have on this...

Banger read your first post, then point two in the last one..

Dman made the first threat on ports, if he wishes that route we will oblige. Otherwise our direction has no port or nation involved. We were once called out to act so we will. A thread by VUDU was created calling out avonmora players to hit back, or come together and hit back. You all supported it, we agreed. So lets keep the fight where it is supposed to be and not involve ports or nations.

I never involve ports, in fact, I generally sell off all my offensive port voodoo as I never use it except for a couple BDs if I am leveling up in a nation. I think involving ports is in poor taste, like I said, it should only be an absolute last resort but even then, my preference is to not involve ports.

I do agree with dman that our only recourse is to attack the nation players and guildmates of people taking up this crusade as you and your guildmates are creating a situation where you have nothing to lose.

[PhoenixKnight]

Per your request Banger. As you will see, Dman made the threat unprovoked



I have put my reaction up in our nation chat and depending on how that goes I will have a new flag shortly.

I will send you a copy and you will see where I feel this forces me to go.

I am talking tactics that make sense from a larger force.

It is not animosity but to meet a challenge you have to decide how best to approach it.

That is simply where I am.
2018-03-23 04:58:00 (Chat reply) report_message

It is not in your honor. But your name came up as a person of interest. However, you are not the only one.
2018-03-23 04:53:55 (Chat reply)

Lol this is in my honor? I was not made aware of that.
First I have heard of it other than with Vane getting upset that I took Natsus actions and forced the guild to deal with it.
As for IOM if I go to acting a fool it will be as a full pirate.

I do not care about nations except some like them.

You do as you wish but I am telling you if those attacking cant be touched you leave no options.

You and those you surround yourself have more gc and credits than most you want to hit.

You tell me how you fight that?

As for my word I dont give it if I dont follow it but that has no bearing as my word is valued by those I want it to be valued by.

Fold? Lol I havent been dealt in yet.

I actually thought you meant to tear into Banger with the lot of you with Vane using it as a bit of get back.

But leaving IOM is no problem for me as I dont take money for personal use as other nations do and allow.

When did it become about me? I am curious. Funny that that many people would be needed.

This is interesting.
2018-03-23 03:08:50 (Chat reply) report_message

My friend, many have asked several times for a more moderate tone in privateering. The requests were met with a challenge to stand up to the aggressors and show what we are made of.
Now that it is happenening, you are singlehandedly wanting to bring nations and ports to it?

No one else besides you does. But if that is what you want to do, be my guest. You are not just dealing with one nation or one guild anymore. You are dealing with nearly all Avonmora. All nations and guilds involved by the representatives of TKP are backing us up 100%. I also doubt that Shadowood and Will will like your statements since thy already declared they want nothing to do with this. And they definitely won’t appreciate you dragging IOM into ports war with 8 nations and 10 guilds.

There is a limit to what you can do alone. If you want to spend money over this, go for it. I am not stopping you. Just remember that just like you can spend, each one of us can too.

From my end, a simple promise of a more moderate gameplay that doesn’t overly hurt One side is enough for me. Others on the other hand do not trust your word. FYI, this coilation is not my idea. In fact, Shadowood suggested it to CDV, Vane, Lodswe and me independently and who knows who else.

If you want to blame someone, you can blame the insolence at which our request was met, the brashness of the challenge and your guild leader for telling Avonmora to take this action against the culprits.

None of us wanted to do this but we were dared to do it. dare accepted and inacted. If you want to fold, just say so.
2018-03-23 02:55:34 (Chat reply)

The idea that a conglomerate of super wealthy people collecting to decide who can do what and to whom does not sit well with me.

That is what in effect you are forming.

I will tell you now that if your group decides to pass judgment and use tons of voodoo to defleet and demoralize who you judge to be worthy of your groups attention I will hit super wealthy people where they feel it the most.

You say light ups on merchants are too much yet the fleets they run are pure profit with no thought to small to large with defense built into each fleet.

So you have people who are about equal playing games now you want to enter an end all argument collective.

Voodoo and ship battles will not affect you guys which leaves only one place the battle can be fought and I will be damned if I am too polite to abstain from costing my oppressors more than my petty ships are worth.

Not only will I do it I will spend every week to buy more voodoo to continue hitting the conglomerate in the only place it can be felt and that is ports.

That is the only counter to this group you are forming if there is another tell me where I am wrong.
2018-03-23 02:27:55 () report_message

lol my questions are simple and fueled by ignorance
2018-03-21 18:52:4
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dmanwuzhere (#66793) (Block User)
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at some point when my 30 day ban on fb is up lol I would like to discuss my view on your religion the only reason i do not want to do it here is it sets the wrong tone for game play.

however i have a million questions and thoughts i would like to ask a muslim.

obviously my lack of proximity with muslims on a daily basis hinders my learning and while i do not have prejudices concerning the religion i do have a million questions lol.
2018-03-21 18:40:17 () report_message

I will consider ot
2018-03-17 21:15:41 (Chat reply)

you might talk to astragek he could easily be the guy you want
2018-03-17 20:59:39 (Chat reply) report_message

I will take your word on it

[sXs]

Will say it again.......... you need permission by both parties to post private communications in the open forum.......

[Dmanwuzhere]

PhoenixKnight, I hope you had dmans permission to post that.......

Lol he doesnt need it He Is Phoenix

[PhoenixKnight]

You said you don’t mind