Trump - Off to Destroy the World

[Mack]

I mean honestly we don't need to throw billions at some organization to save the invironment.. especially when most companies just find some way around the laws anyway.. also, its not like we don't have regulations ourselves um we are our own nation..

[Marcellus Falcon]

Humans have a curse: We are very smart in hindsight and we mainly react than act. That accounts for everything in what we do. There is the true 1% in the world that drives us forward, those are pioneers, engineers, scientists, artists, people that help people, people that help their environment, work with nature than against it, etc. big movers that do things not only for their own benefit but for us all. The other 99% just trod along and post videos of unboxing the new iPhone or how to apply eyeshadow and get a hard-on for every like they get. We take pictures of food and show off where we are on holiday to get said likes to make us feel special. But these 99 % seems to know it all, always have something to say and are the loudest in the room!

[DezNutz]

Well. I just happened to come across this. And I thought this would never happen. But it has.

Trump has officially announced the US will be leaving the Paris Climate Accord.

While people have been crying out at Hillary for being a "corporate" democrat. Clearly Trump is a "corporate" republican, but with 0 shits about the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=monhjZzx4nw

First, the Paris Accord was an unconstitutional agreement. All treaties signed by a President must be ratified by 2/3 majority in the Senate for them to take effect and mean anything in the USA. If it was so important, why didn't Obama send it to the Senate for ratification, oh I know because it was DOA. It would have never passed the Senate.

Secondly, the USA spends more per capita than any other nation on the environment.

Finally, the Paris Accord was basically a redistribution of American Wealth to other nations. Why should the USA give US tax payer dollars to other nations, so the other nation can reduce its pollution, while at the same time, that nation puts up nothing and is not required to actually do anything. There are no guarantees.

[Shadowood]

Well. I just happened to come across this. And I thought this would never happen. But it has.

Trump has officially announced the US will be leaving the Paris Climate Accord.

While people have been crying out at Hillary for being a "corporate" democrat. Clearly Trump is a "corporate" republican, but with 0 shits about the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=monhjZzx4nw

First, the Paris Accord was an unconstitutional agreement. All treaties signed by a President must be ratified by 2/3 majority in the Senate for them to take effect and mean anything in the USA. If it was so important, why didn't Obama send it to the Senate for ratification, oh I know because it was DOA. It would have never passed the Senate.

Secondly, the USA spends more per capita than any other nation on the environment.

Finally, the Paris Accord was basically a redistribution of American Wealth to other nations. Why should the USA give US tax payer dollars to other nations, so the other nation can reduce its pollution, while at the same time, that nation puts up nothing and is not required to actually do anything. There are no guarantees.

+1

[Redjack02]

ITs not how much you spend its how you spent it.
There are nations wich now are close to 100% of reneval energy. Windmills and dams.

[Meliva]

ITs not how much you spend its how you spent it.
There are nations wich now are close to 100% of reneval energy. Windmills and dams.

Don't forget though that the US is one of largest nations in the world, both in land size and population, which makes producing enough energy for everyone harder then in a smaller nation such as Ireland for example. though it can be done, We could cut our military spending in half and focus that on renewable energy until we are using mostly renewable energy. Though some large corporations might not like that and try to stop it from happening.

[Marcellus Falcon]

Change should come with us first and not have to rely on others like governments, organisations and treaties etc. We have to stop thinking others will fix the problems for us, whatever they may be. Someone else will take care of it... Change the way we consume. If we can't change ourselves to be our best that we can be, then we shouldn't expect that from others. People or governments. This world is amazing and it can be that for millennia to come. I really want us to be here in thousands of years looking back at our humble beginnings and be appreciative to where we have come to. (Unless a massive cosmic occurrence spoils our plans! )

Whatever is out there in the universe, one thing is for 100% sure. The only humans that ever existed came from earth.

Fair winds mates

[sXs]

well maybe if you were paying attention during his campaign, that is what he said he was going to do.. why is it a surprise?

Also, why is this a bad thing? IMO we spend way to friggin much money on "saving the environment"..

Oh because you know. Clearly saving the environment is such a burden. Why don't we also stop trying to achieve all our goals since they are a burden?

Clearly economics is far more important than where we live.

“Only when the last tree has been cut down, the last fish been caught, and the last stream poisoned, will we realize we cannot eat money.”

- Crees

The paris agreement, If you have read it< did absolutely nothing to "save the environment". It committed the US to standards that no other nation would be held too. China and India would be allowed to continue as is with no requirement to reduce emissions. Even the very scientists the UN relies upon to guide policy have said this would have a net zero affect on the environment. The only reason people are angry about this is because the US pulling out basically means that there is not enough money to fund the UN agenda.

This agreement committed the US to spend upwards of 110 billion a year while other nations would be paid by that very money.

What you have not heard reported in the main stream left wing media is that Trump has also said he believes in climate change and would be open to an agreement that would actually tackle the issue. This agreement did nothing to "Protect the environment". All it did was shift the cost burden to the US.

[DezNutz]

ITs not how much you spend its how you spent it.
There are nations wich now are close to 100% of reneval energy. Windmills and dams.

Windmills are not as environmentally friendly as you think. While they use wind to produce power, they are not cost effective, especially if you include the fact that windmills kill endangered birds and get waivers for doing so because its green energy. Try to build through some endangered species habitat and it will get shutdown, but windmills get an exemption, for not disturbing their habitat, but for actually straight out killing them because its' "green" energy. Environmental Hypocrisy at its best.


Dams are another Environmental Hypocrisy. Dams are actually a great source of "green" energy, but environmentalist frown upon them unless they have costly systems for migrating fish and other water based wildlife, which in turn makes them inefficient and not cost effective.

[Meliva]

Windmills are not as environmentally friendly as you think. While they use wind to produce power, they are not cost effective, especially if you include the fact that windmills kill endangered birds and get waivers for doing so because its green energy. Try to build through some endangered species habitat and it will get shutdown, but windmills get an exemption, for not disturbing their habitat, but for actually straight out killing them because its' "green" energy. Environmental Hypocrisy at its best.


Dams are another Environmental Hypocrisy. Dams are actually a great source of "green" energy, but environmentalist frown upon them unless they have costly systems for migrating fish and other water based wildlife, which in turn makes them inefficient and not cost effective.

Well you can think of it as the lesser evil. These things might kill some animals, but that's better then poisoning the air or water which will kill far more. Not to mention we can keep endangered animals safe in zoos. Solar energy is another good source of energy. Now that I think about it, what if we started building our houses with solar panels for roofs and set it up to power the house with that energy. Might be able to provide enough power if your conservative with your energy usage.