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Extortion

Postby PhoenixKnight » Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:35 pm

Is practicing extortion allowed in the game? I am not going to name anyone but there is at least one player who is demanding percentage of others revenue to stop attacking and abstain from future attacks.
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Re: Extortion

Postby Roberts » Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:46 pm

PhoenixKnight wrote:Is practicing extortion allowed in the game? I am not going to name anyone but there is at least one player who is demanding percentage of others revenue to stop attacking and abstain from future attacks.


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Re: Extortion

Postby Mohammed » Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:05 pm

PhoenixKnight wrote:Is practicing extortion allowed in the game? I am not going to name anyone but there is at least one player who is demanding percentage of others revenue to stop attacking and abstain from future attacks.

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i think its a fair game pirates want gold and extortion is a good way to obtain
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Re: Extortion

Postby John jacob astor » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:20 pm

Although it may seem cruel, i don't believe you can (or should) find a way to prevent extortion. all someone is doing is attacking a player which is well within the rules.

the only thing i think may be a problem is the milking/pushing rules. i'm not too familiar with what applies but perhaps certain forms of extortion may fall under those rules
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Re: Extortion

Postby Dejanira » Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:43 am

Seems to me that the case could be included in those in the milkink/pushing page, if a stronger player milks a weaker one. Not sure. Just my two cents.
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Re: Extortion

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:09 am

Milking is a different case than extortion. We can tell when a payment is coming through a deal or through milking. Remember that the base rule of milking is to play the account to its best interest. I understand that the vast majority of the playerbase would prefer that such kind of gameplay should be punishable by the rules.

I am personally not convinced that administration should have a say in this. It is after all quite difficult to define extortion. If someone pushes for a daily/weekly or monthly tribute in exchange for not attacking you, then he obviously cannot do the same to a lot of players. This is where guilds come into place.

So, this is something that guilds must solve in my opinion, not administration.

That being said, this is posted in the right forum, so you may continue your discussion with one another without me in your feet.
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Re: Extortion

Postby Valar Morghulis » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:48 am

Extortion seems to be well within rules and players may use that weapon at their discression.

Used right, it's a very effective weapon but with slightest mistakes it may backfire.

Morally it's condemnable but it ain't against any rule.
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Re: Extortion

Postby looser » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:56 am

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There is only Roberts who can do this or you Valar....
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Re: Extortion

Postby Hawk » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:00 pm

Retracted due to misinformation. I assumed it was yourself Roberts, but mercenaries are just as bad sometimes yes?
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Re: Extortion

Postby Roberts » Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:52 pm

Captain Jack wrote:Milking is a different case than extortion. We can tell when a payment is coming through a deal or through milking. Remember that the base rule of milking is to play the account to its best interest. I understand that the vast majority of the playerbase would prefer that such kind of gameplay should be punishable by the rules.

I am personally not convinced that administration should have a say in this. It is after all quite difficult to define extortion. If someone pushes for a daily/weekly or monthly tribute in exchange for not attacking you, then he obviously cannot do the same to a lot of players. This is where guilds come into place.

So, this is something that guilds must solve in my opinion, not administration.

That being said, this is posted in the right forum, so you may continue your discussion with one another without me in your feet.


I agree, but no offence to your comments, Admin - Guilds can not help you out when you are being lit up... They can prevent it, but they are such ways : To light players up ( SSTG knows - No offence intended - I have to use a different strategy on them )


looser wrote:-1

There is only Roberts who can do this or you Valar....


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