Player info on public forums

[Captain Jack]

Greetings,

Player info must not be posted on public forums. As player info, we regard crystal ball reports, spy network but also any information regarding a player. Such as where his hideout is. A battle report, since it exposes a fleet composition, falls into this.

As public forums, we regard these forums, all in-game tavern forums and all in-game achievements/events forums.

Guild forums are regarded as private. So do Country forums. Especially for the country forums, I am open to disagreement and we can change them to be regarded as public if you think this is better. Please present your arguments for this.

Player private messages cannot be posted at any forums. Including private forums. This creates the most basic argument as to why Country forums should be regarded as private forums. As despite the general notion, it should be quite common to post messages you received even at the guild forums. And none will ever report these so the messages will remain. This is not something that will happen in country forums. So we have a difference here between two private forums.

However, country forums feature rank filtering. Which makes them a bit like guild forums. Not to mention that even I, as an admin, I do not get to view them. I can only view my country's (Scottish boards are peaceful anyway). So, unless there is a country moderator, the forums are regarded as private. I only get to view a message only when it is reported.

For this main reason, I lean to treat them as private. It also saves up moderation work.

I really cannot recall our past way to deal with such. Initially I thought that we deal country forums as private but I am not sure anymore. So, it's up for discussion.

[Most Lee Harmless]

I follow the principal of access defining privacy : if I can not control who enters a room, as with a nation, and anyone may do so regardless of my wishes then it is a public space. If I can chose who enters and enforce that choice, as in a guild, then it is a private space.

[Captain Jack]

Still, you should be able to post spy networks on country forums, to cooperate with fellow countrymen. This is one of the reasons we consider country forums as private at the first place.

[William one eye]

How about Eotc restriction for nobility level nation discussion.

Maybe starting at marquess.

[Captain Jack]

That's actually a GREAT idea.

[Most Lee Harmless]

Still, you should be able to post spy networks on country forums, to cooperate with fellow countrymen. This is one of the reasons we consider country forums as private at the first place.

This is part of my long held argument about nation access rules : they should be private but they are not as any can access them. Anyone can dump any kinda crap they choose in them and there is nothing the nation can do to stop it : heck they cant even clean the mess up afterwards. Mexico's forum were still full of FOX' s racist sexist abusive shyte a year after they were gone. Thats not a private forum.

[sXs]

Still, you should be able to post spy networks on country forums, to cooperate with fellow countrymen. This is one of the reasons we consider country forums as private at the first place.

This is part of my long held argument about nation access rules : they should be private but they are not as any can access them. Anyone can dump any kinda crap they choose in them and there is nothing the nation can do to stop it : heck they cant even clean the mess up afterwards. Mexico's forum were still full of FOX' s racist sexist abusive shyte a year after they were gone. Thats not a private forum.

Another example. That damn Shadowood person, whoever he is, going around nation by nation and posting “ Shadow was here” in the forum. That should be outlawed.

In all seriousness though. I agree with CJ here. Your example of Mexico’s nation forum is sad but I can’t see it right now so it is private unless I change nations.

[Most Lee Harmless]

It was not private when we were there : if there is no means to control or prevent access by any person then its public : that the entire potential public audience isnt there dont change that in the same way an empty public park is still a public space as anyone can walk through it at any time. In fact a public park can at least allow for the ejection of individuals who breach its rules : nations in Avonmora can do bugger all save add a pretty icon to their profile.