Gold Bars Destroyed?

[Admiral Nelson]

Thanks for the heads up, oh its fine Avonmora.

Serious note: Find a new strategy and do not complain.

Close your eyes and pretend its a bad dream. Thats how I get by with these Bountys on meh!

[Shadowood]

I would like to know (not names) how many Gold Smiths above lvl 10 are in the game today?

Also, what about a compromise to this card. A lot of Voodoo or Rank bonus effect resources and gold bars differently. Usually gold bars are a fraction of the bigger effect. Take Rank Bonus for gold bar sales.

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Duke Bonus: *+10% profit on market sales (All resources except Gold Bars)
*+2.5% profit on market sales (Gold Bars).

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Indian Cards: 2% bonus on sales.   0.5% on gold bars

I suggest that OLOD be in line with this. 15% resources destroyed. 1.5% gold bars (if at all)

I agree that there needs to be some risk in the game, but with gold bars that risk is already there in the form of Skrimishes, since a player can't sell those bars in the port they are produced. He has to move them.

[Admiral Nelson]

How about..

Target looses 5% of current gold bar level in selected port.

As then, you can have a gold bar 'supply' and spread it across Avonmora in each port.

[Shadowood]

With gold bars prices so low, I was going to start building up Gold Bar reserves in each port, like a lot of smart players do. Today actually I was going to purchase over $100 mil in gold bars.

At a 2200 valuation per bar, that would be roughly 45,454 gold bars. Spread equally over 21 ports, that's 2,164 gold bars per port.

Now this number is pretty small compared to the 30k-50k of each supply I have in warehouses across the map.
15% of 2,164 = 324 bars destroyed. 324 x 2,200 = $712,000. This is small compared to the $100 million I just invested in a back bone.

Do I believe that people will just start randomly casting on me or others to destroy bars. NO. Can they, YES. But I can bet that any of the Gold Smiths that spoke up on this thread would hit back 10 fold. Thus creating conflict.

[Admiral Nelson]

With gold bars prices so low, I was going to start building up Gold Bar reserves in each port, like a lot of smart players do. Today actually I was going to purchase over $100 mil in gold bars.

At a 2200 valuation per bar, that would be roughly 45,454 gold bars. Spread equally over 21 ports, that's 2,164 gold bars per port.

Now this number is pretty small compared to the 30k-50k of each supply I have in warehouses across the map.
15% of 2,164 = 324 bars destroyed. 324 x 2,200 = $712,000. This is small compared to the $100 million I just invested in a back bone.

Do I believe that people will just start randomly casting on me or others to destroy bars. NO. Can they, YES. But I can bet that any of the Gold Smiths that spoke up on this thread would hit back 10 fold. Thus creating conflict.

Takes note of Shadowood's post...

One step closer to getting rid! See getting a strategy already!

[Bmw]

so long as you spread them around you should be safe from destruction.

[Admiral Nelson]

so long as you spread them around you should be safe from destruction.

Effectively, you will be able to put 5,000 gold bars in each port before it gets too 'costly'.

What happens to your gold supply now, Bmw?

[Bmw]

so long as you spread them around you should be safe from destruction.

Effectively, you will be able to put 5,000 gold bars in each port before it gets too 'costly'.

What happens to your gold supply now, Bmw?

well when you have too big of a loss there is no profit but at 5k goldbars in each port you shouldn't worry about gold loss since you probably make a ton.

[Stan Rogers]

Tell when you have too big of a loss there is no profit but at 5k goldbars in each port you shouldn't worry about gold loss since you probably make a ton.

Some may think that but, unfortunately nothing could be farther from the truth. As a matter of fact, I would be very surprised if any other Goldsmith has ever shown a profit as yet.
Only Blk Sparrow would know, maybe DaVinci and SHM as they had the reserves to get a smelter up running while GB was fetching 3000/bar.
The later developers I would venture are still, and will be for a long time, waiting for their smelter to turn a profit.

A smithy could mitigate risk for himself by crafty use of fleet names showing on the demo board and slipping stocking fleets in the cover of darkness into the most profitable ports and sell at opportune times.

I doubt we shall see anyone bulk purchasing GB now as anyone knows if you suspect it's your enemy, it would be a good time to throw out a few OLoD's to see if you get a hit !

Yes, this is going to affect any player who regularly uses GB. On a good note for me, it has the potential to drive the price of gold back up as now GB shippers are going to have to be even more diligent in their delivery scheme's to avoid pirates laying in wait at high priced GB ports.

I think I'm going to fill up the vault and then send the smithy's off on a well deserved vacation.
If other Smithy's do the same, maybe we can have a lottery to see when the price of GB hits 2500/bar ? 2750 ? or even 3000/bar.

[Shadowood]

I think too with new game additions (Ships, Port Buildings, IC, Hut) that more gold bars will be purchased and drive prices up. A good thing for the Gold Smith's who are out there.

Again I would love to know how many have taken the plunge into such a HUGE investment. One that won't see a return for 1-2 YEARS!!