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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby William one eye » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:15 am

Astragek wrote:But then you'd have to have a law in place, that if the majority of the council votes yes, you can overthrow the king too, if you go down that pathway


As king would still function by influence,
All one needs to unseat the king is enough influence.
Council could all contribute to raise a player to that position. They could also use propaganda on the current king.

All though a possible player based rebellion to exile the king by vote is an interesting possibility. It could be quite helpful or quite destructive to a nation.
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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby DezNutz » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:19 pm

Shadowood wrote:
DezNutz wrote:I like the appointment of Governors, but I think that all Governor's should be appointed. Influence should have no affect. Failure to appoint would result in no Governor at the port, and the rolls and responsibilites delegated to the Governor would be unfilled and unused.


So you could technically have a Governor that has zero influence, but since they were appointed by the king they get extra perks? That seems like it could have a negative effect. I agree that the Governor should be appointed and what port. But there should be some minimums involved. Right?


I didn't say the Governor could be anyone, just that they must be appointed by the King. They would still need to be a Duke.
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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby Shadowood » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:58 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Shadowood wrote:
DezNutz wrote:I like the appointment of Governors, but I think that all Governor's should be appointed. Influence should have no affect. Failure to appoint would result in no Governor at the port, and the rolls and responsibilites delegated to the Governor would be unfilled and unused.


So you could technically have a Governor that has zero influence, but since they were appointed by the king they get extra perks? That seems like it could have a negative effect. I agree that the Governor should be appointed and what port. But there should be some minimums involved. Right?


I didn't say the Governor could be anyone, just that they must be appointed by the King. They would still need to be a Duke.


Yes, but lets say Captain Bleeksquad was a RL personal friend of Chin Chin. He has 200K of influence. Would it be fair that he was appointed over you or LordAv that have millions and probably have contributed a lot more to USA. Just making a point. It probably wont happen, all I am saying is it could.
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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby DezNutz » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:15 pm

Shadowood wrote:
DezNutz wrote:
I didn't say the Governor could be anyone, just that they must be appointed by the King. They would still need to be a Duke.


Yes, but lets say Captain Bleeksquad was a RL personal friend of Chin Chin. He has 200K of influence. Would it be fair that he was appointed over you or LordAv that have millions and probably have contributed a lot more to USA. Just making a point. It probably wont happen, all I am saying is it could.


Yes it could, but that would be his choice as King. If I don't like his choices I should increase my influence and become King myself.
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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby PhoenixKnight » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:07 pm

Danik wrote:I know of two players who have held a port single-handed for many many many months : Tom Lowe in Gasp and Captain Dungeness in Kanoni. So, its no unheard of : but I'll grant its much more unlikely these days with so many green-eyed monsters stirring the pot daily.


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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:12 pm

PhoenixKnight wrote:
Danik wrote:I know of two players who have held a port single-handed for many many many months : Tom Lowe in Gasp and Captain Dungeness in Kanoni. So, its no unheard of : but I'll grant its much more unlikely these days with so many green-eyed monsters stirring the pot daily.


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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby PhoenixKnight » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:02 pm

Danik wrote:
PhoenixKnight wrote:
Danik wrote:I know of two players who have held a port single-handed for many many many months : Tom Lowe in Gasp and Captain Dungeness in Kanoni. So, its no unheard of : but I'll grant its much more unlikely these days with so many green-eyed monsters stirring the pot daily.


I feel so left out Danik!


Who are you? Look, just move along, come back when you have done something, okay?

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Funny you should say that. You are more active on the forums than in the game. What did you achieve again?
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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby Hector Barbossa » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:01 am

DezNutz wrote:
Shadowood wrote:
DezNutz wrote:
I didn't say the Governor could be anyone, just that they must be appointed by the King. They would still need to be a Duke.


Yes, but lets say Captain Bleeksquad was a RL personal friend of Chin Chin. He has 200K of influence. Would it be fair that he was appointed over you or LordAv that have millions and probably have contributed a lot more to USA. Just making a point. It probably wont happen, all I am saying is it could.


Yes it could, but that would be his choice as King. If I don't like his choices I should increase my influence and become King myself.


I agree with Kings having the ability to appoint there chosen dukes as their governors. If you wish to be chosen for the governor position you need to either cozy up to the King, offer something to the nation or the King, or surpass him and make your own choices. Internal politics become much more important like this.
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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby William one eye » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:56 pm

If the king is given the option to make appointments -

I would suggest 3 possible additional appointments that would perhaps only be ceremonial at first, but could be developed to have their own
specific functions.

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Re: King Role Upgrades

Postby DezNutz » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:04 pm

William one eye wrote:If the king is given the option to make appointments -

I would suggest 3 possible additional appointments that would perhaps only be ceremonial at first, but could be developed to have their own
specific functions.

Regent
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+1 A king should be able to "form" his council and delegate functions via appointment.

The only issue that I see is that some titles and jobs would still need to be handled by more than one player, as not everyone is on all the time. Don't know how you could create oversight in this game.
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