Diplomacy aeiou

[Grimrock Litless]

To be able to do diplomacy, both nation must at lease have 2 owned ports. Except for,
Guarantee Independence
Demand Vassalisation
Offer Vassalisation
Demand Tribute
Offer Tribute
Which needs both country to at lease have one owned port.
If a country suddenly have no more ports but the deals are still active, they have a 15 days delay before the deals are destroyed automatically.
In Tribute, all the nation treasury will go to the source country in 15 days.

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First, it is vassalage not vassalisation.

A nation that does not have a port can be a vassal of a nation that does.

A nation does not need to own a port to be in an "alliance" or pact with another nation.

Edited it, I am terrible at spelling. Thanks for pointing it out.

To be able to do diplomacy, both nation must at LEAST have 2 owned ports. Except for,
Guarantee Independence
Demand Vassalisation
Offer Vassalisation
Demand Tribute
Offer Tribute
Which needs both country to at LEAST have one owned port.
If a country suddenly have no more ports but the deals are still active, they have a 15 days delay before the deals are destroyed automatically.
In Tribute, all the nation treasury will go to the source country in 15 days.

[DezNutz]

-1 Parts of diplomacy should not restricted to only port nations that hold at least 2 ports. I could understand for some parts that one of the nations must hold a port, but outside of that there shouldn't be a restriction.

[DezNutz]

Back on topic though, a good idea. I'm no national but I do think the forcing vassals and tribute would be a killer for new nations trying to develop. 50% of their income? god luck ever catching a top nation no matter how hard you try.

Vassalage should only apply between a port holding nation and a non-port holding nation. A nation that owns a port can't be a vassal of another port nation.

Vassalage should be where a non-port holding nation agrees to become part of and support a port holding nation, but still retain their flag. Part of the taxes collected by the vassal would go to the host nation. Vassal nation's influence in the port would apply to the host nation's total influence. In return, the vassal nation would be eligible to benefits from the host nation, such as stipends, possibly a special seat on the host nation council for the vassal nations' king, etc. A lot would need to hammered out in functionality. If Vassalage is considered by the admins, it's own discussion would need to be created to discuss. This isn't a simple implementation.

Tribute should only occur as a result of a resolution in conflict. Nation A & B are at war. Nation A is winning. Nation B may have to pay tribute of X for X time to garner peace.

[Maha]

-1 Parts of diplomacy should not restricted to only port nations that hold at least 2 ports. I could understand for some parts that one of the nations must hold a port, but outside of that there shouldn't be a restriction.

not even that, if Hungary is willing to share her influence to austria in Pania, than austria could start the habsburg dynasty again.

port ownership is about influence. nations should be able to peddle influence. e.g. Seaglory; St.Kit makes a deal with the pirates and the domanican republic to get their influence. through that it gains that port from the UK. Besides that, since the influence that is used by st.K. come from three nations, it gives some conspiracy protection as well.

Back on topic though, a good idea. I'm no national but I do think the forcing vassals and tribute would be a killer for new nations trying to develop. 50% of their income? god luck ever catching a top nation no matter how hard you try.

Vassalage should only apply between a port holding nation and a non-port holding nation. A nation that owns a port can't be a vassal of another port nation.

a nation hold hostage in vassalage will never get the strength to overthrow a port owning nation. being able to close ports and withhold trade benefits, it's easy to enforce.

vassalation (the endeavor to make nations vassals) would be a simple tool to close the book for wannabe nations.

[DezNutz]

Vassalage shouldn't be a permanent option nor should it be forced on another nation. This is one of those times where the idea of vassalage while it existed in the real world, should not be applied in the exact same manner as it worked in the real world.

[Grimrock Litless]

Vassalage shouldn't be a permanent option nor should it be forced on another nation. This is one of those times where the idea of vassalage while it existed in the real world, should not be applied in the exact same manner as it worked in the real world.

If you got any ideas, say it.

[DezNutz]

Vassalage shouldn't be a permanent option nor should it be forced on another nation. This is one of those times where the idea of vassalage while it existed in the real world, should not be applied in the exact same manner as it worked in the real world.

If you got any ideas, say it.

I did, read up a few posts.

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[Sanji]

+1

i like the idia of diplomacy....