New Stat "Infamy"

[Jack Aubrey]

I wasnt going to initially create a suggestion thread for this right now until i got this from CJ after my rant on the fame formula,

The new stat you propose is not a bad idea imo. Why don't you open a new discussion about it though? It will help into attracting more interest from the rest of the playerbase.

So naturally i made a post for it. Now if you do not wish to discuss it further than by all means stop reading this thread and posting in it. You and Roi are the only ones to dislike the thought, and neither one of you has made a valid reason as to why it should not be added to the game at some point.

[Sir Colchian Niveus]

I already said why Mr Drake. I believe that there are other priorities in the game. Although except you, Rothschild and Groggy i haven't seen anyone else saying yes also, so, i suggest you to relax. I already said that i like your idea but it needs work. So maybe you should re-read my post to get an idea of what i'm saying.

i'm out of here, lol...

[Jack Aubrey]

Aye, so due to other priorities somthing new can not be suggested according to you? Suggestions take time to discuss, formulate, and if ever accepted implemented weeks, months, even years down the road. No harm in bringing somthing up to talk about. I never once said do it before anything else, nor even hinted at adding it to the to do list within the next 3 months. This is a suggestion thread, not a debate on what holds priority at this moment in time.

As for the relax comment. Mate i have never been more relaxed, I am in no way concerned about anything that has been said thus far affecting the future outcome of this suggestion. The simple fact Monkey, you continue to post nothing that has to do with the flaws of this idea nor contribute to it, which simply leaves you trolling a thread..

[Sir Colchian Niveus]

Mate i wont get involved to the debate, you want to create. i guess some ppl are smart enough to be dumb, and i don't like to mess with those. I just said my opinion as you said yours, but you get too personal. I don't see where you saw me harming you and you got such an aggresive position. I said that it needs work. I said that until a complete formula is suggested shouldn't be discussed more, as i believe. Use the time that you spend answering me to figure out a formula to improve it. I have no suggestions on pirating cause i don't like piracy. I like the game though and i know it's priorities. For now i'll just wont give you the pleasure to have that kind of talk with you. Suggestion threads are to discuss with ppl and not to tell them go away if they disagree with you. I'm still proposing you to re-read my post to get an idea...

DONE

[Jack Aubrey]

What....??? lol,... Did you hit your head? I will repost my suggestion as nothing you said remotely describes what I was talking about...

This formula is awful from a pirates perspective. There can no longer be famous pirates in the game do to always losing 10% of fame since "true pirates" run very few ships.

This just pushes them in the merchant direction if fame is something they seek. I understand the points behind changing the formula and creating it in a way so wealthy merchants with hundreds of ships maintain fame easier as a sign of their progress and well, for lack of a better term, fame.

To combat this, I would ask that a new stat such as "Infamy" be added for the pirates. Infamy would be earned for each attack executed skirmish and plunder, while a percentage is lost every 24 hours or something. Pirates would have a stat board to try and stay at the top of and would be required to attack merchants often to do this. I could see more action coming from a new stat such as this.

The new stat you propose is not a bad idea imo. Why don't you open a new discussion about it though? It will help into attracting more interest from the rest of the playerbase.

As per CJ's suggestion after I posted the above in the new fame formula thread, I will start a new thread for my proposed stat.

I have not put a ton of thought into this yet, but was displeased with the new fame formula and how it works for pirates who operate with few ships on hand. As said this completely eliminates any pirate who uses these tactics from competing for fame in any way as they lose way for from receiving one attack than they can earn raiding a merchant and executing 60+ attacks.

I propose a new stat called "Infamy" be added with a new leaderboard for pirates, privateers ect. as a way of measuring their feared presence among the seas of Avonmora.

The first thing that comes to mind is having Infamy increase based on each successful plunder and skirmish attack. Either based on a percentage of another stat such as the targets fame, or even a set amount such as 50 Infamy earned per attack, whichever is more liked by the players. Infamy would then decrease by a percentage of that players Infamy each day at the update. (Accounting for hiding or the heat cooling down).

To earn the top spot of this board and to keep it would require daily attacks by these players seeking Infamy to maintain and increase their score. This would also give an added attraction to their profession for new players, and increase the overall action within the game. Making trading more dangerous and profits for traders smaller.

As stated, this is not fully thought through but i dont believe it to be a hard addition to figure out.

[Most Lee Harmless]

*adds 2 pesos worth of comment*

I rather like SFD's suggestion : pirates raid, its their reason for being, so a stat which reflects that activity is quite a reasonable idea : I also agree with SFD that 'priorities' as to when such features may be implemented is not relevant to this thread or the validity of the feature suggested : we suggest, the developers decide when, if at all: so this suggestion thread is right and proper place to kick-start the process.

[Roberts]

I wasnt going to initially create a suggestion thread for this right now until i got this from CJ after my rant on the fame formula,

The new stat you propose is not a bad idea imo. Why don't you open a new discussion about it though? It will help into attracting more interest from the rest of the playerbase.

So naturally i made a post for it. Now if you do not wish to discuss it further than by all means stop reading this thread and posting in it. You and Roi are the only ones to dislike the thought, and neither one of you has made a valid reason as to why it should not be added to the game at some point.

Sounds like a good idea, to me...

[Jack Aubrey]

Thank you all for your support. So here is a bit of a simple yet concise description of what i think it would look like.

Stat Name: "Infamy" (has nothing to do with fame)
How it's Gained: +5 every "successful" plunder or skirmish on another player
How it's Lost: -5% at daily update


I would also suggest:

1) It be shown along the horizontal links below the header along with name, inbox, port, fame, gold ect.

2) It has a leader board page accessible via the ranks page such as Top players, Top Nations, Guild Rankings ect.

3) It have an added place on the Quartermaster page along with most influential player ect.
(this should be mentioned as the most notorious player, as notorious implies fame by ill deed. The fame spot could be the most powerfull player is....)

4) This stat would have the pirate flag associated with it such as fame currently does, and fame could receive a new image icon. (open to discussion).

[Sir Colchian Niveus]

There must be a trophy though Drake. Otherwise it's pointless. What could that be?

[Mr. Rothschild]

Why does it need a trophy?